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> When Germany legalised prostitution in 2002 it triggered an apparently unstoppable growth in the country’s sex industry. One needs to be careful when making
by lispm 12y ago
> When Germany legalised prostitution in 2002 it triggered an apparently unstoppable growth in the country’s sex industry.
One needs to be careful when making judgements about what the causes were for this growth.
One need to keep in mind that Germany has several strong driving forces for change in our society and around us.
* economic collapse in former east europe
* change in political and economic systems
* open borders
* a lot of poor and desperate people in Germany and in neighbor countries.
* Many european countries further in the east are even worse in most ways: no jobs, no perspective, corruption, very little recovery, ...
* Germany had an economic recovery during the last decade and has been able to control the effects of the world-wide financial crisis on its economy.
* the Euro in Germany and west Europe remained stable. In those troubled country in the east, there is no Euro. Some smaller countries now joined the Eurozone.
We had the reunification of east and west germany. 20 million people had a drastic change in life, with their economy collapsing, authorities gone, the political system changed, jobs gone, ... Some recovery happened in the last decade, but that was very tough for many people and dampened by a lot of money from mostly western parts of Germany. All borders to neighbor countries are now wide open. All the east european countries went through even harder economic times. The financial crisis made it even worse. High unemployment in neighbor countries, especially for young people, while unemployment in Germany was going down. Many people moved to west europe for work. Legal or not. Eastern neighbors all joined the EU, which for example now means that people can move freely and work freely in other countries.
Thus it's not easy to compare it with other countries and it is not possible to think about prostitution independent from the other developments. The number of people in prostition is not just depending on the type of law. Germany has rich West Germany and an added East Germany. At its border it has countries with a lot of poor people, formely all communist. This difference in wealth, job opportunities, etc. creates enough opportunities which can be exploited. Thus we would have seen a lot increase in the sex business, whether we would have legalized it or not. Trying to control that with police and laws would have been very very difficult. There are open borders to all sides. Thinking that young women from eastern Europe would not been here, if laws were tougher is naive. We didn't open the borders to create new ones.
I think it was a smart move to prevent people from going underground. Still it makes sense to look if changes to the laws etc. are necessary after more than a decade.
- oakaz 12y agoAs I know the border of Germany is pretty strict. I hear lots of horror stories from not only well educated people, but also people write books, makes music, etc. Even well known singers can't get visa to give their concert in Germany sometimes. So how come unemployed people from poor neighbor countries can just go Germany and do prostution? It sounds realistic at first hear but thinking about the border officers in Germany, I think you kinda wanna think majority of the prostutes are not Germans.
- rtpg 12y agoWell, there is the Schengen Zone, meaning you can source a decent amount of people from some of Eastern Europe. Not taking a position on GP's thesis that most prostitutes come from poorer countries though.
- lispm 12y agoThe Schengen zone means that border controls are at the countries at its border. Everyone who enters the Schengen zone then can move freely to Germany without any controls (exception: flights from non-Schengen countries to Germany). Their are no real border control between the Schengen zone countries. The Schengen area are has 420 million people. That's like the US + Mexico, but in 26 countries. The US is closing its border to Mexico - Europe has opened up a lot of borders. But the EU is larger than the Schengen zone. Britain for example is not a part of the Schengen zone, but due to EU law everyone in Britain is free to move to Germany and legally allowed to work here. Then there are a lot of people in east Europe not in the EU. Many of them under a worse economic and political situation (Ukraine, ...). That motivates a lot of people...
- lispm 12y agoWhat you hear is wrong. German border controls are mostly non existent. In a physical way. Drive over the border and you are in Germany. No fence. No controls. Border controls are down to a minimum. Poland is next to us. No one in Poland needs a visa. There are no real border controls between Poland and us. The Czech are next to us. No one needs a visa. No real border controls. France is next to us. No real border controls. Nobody needs a visa. We even have the same currency. Everybody in the EU (505 million people) can work move and work everywhere (mostly). Nobody needs a visa. Even from countries where a visa is needed, moving to Germany and staying illegal is relatively easy. And so on.