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What about inflammation? What happens to my body when I eat 800 calories of pancakes, syrup and hash browns, and start to sweat, feel sick and get tired?

a8da6b0c91d 12y ago
Sugar does not cause inflammation. Sugar lowers cortisol and adrenaline levels. These stress hormones suppress existing inflammation. So in people with elevated catecholamine levels sugar intake tends to unmask damage and initiate a healing process. This is related to the reason people think low carb diets work. Low carb dieting sends stress hormones way up, because cortisol is necessary to break down proteins into needed sugars. People tend to feel pretty good at first in this state. The problem is it totally breaks down into bad endocrine and metabolic problems after two or three years. Nobody debates that ketogenic diets seem to work for weight loss in the short run; the issue is that in the long run they're a health disaster.
- ithought 12y ago
  I do not believe that is true. I can eat greasy hamburgers minus the bun and feel completely fine. I thought the body would use fat and ketones to convert to energy and only convert a very small percentage of protein to glucose. From the Harvard Medical School Family Health Guide: "Don't be so refined. The bolus of blood sugar that accompanies a meal or snack of highly refined carbohydrates (white bread, white rice, French fries, sugar-laden soda, etc.) increases levels of inflammatory messengers called cytokines. Eating whole-grain bread, brown rice, and other whole grains smooths out the after-meal rise in blood sugar and insulin, and dampens cytokine production." http://www.health.harvard.edu/fhg/updates/What-you-eat-can-fuel-or-cool-inflammation-a-key-driver-of-heart-disease-diabetes-and-other-chronic-conditions.shtml http://www.health.harvard.edu/fhg/updates/What-you-eat-can-f...
  - a8da6b0c91d 12y ago
    The cytokine release is exactly what I was describing. It only happens when there is damage and infection to heal. You do not see an inflammation response in a healthy person when they eat sugar/starch. The glycemic index stuff is pretty much nonsense. If you don't have type I diabetes your body is perfectly happy to sop up spikes of sugar and it does no harm at all.
    - ithought 12y ago
      Thanks. Can you recommend a book? So the claim that on a ketogenic diet your brain only needs 5% of energy from protein (to make glucose) and the rest from fats and ketones is wrong?
      - a8da6b0c91d 12y ago
        I would recommend Ari Whitten's "Forever Fat Loss" as a book on fat loss nutrition. I don't know all the detailed claims ketogenic diet advocates make, all I know is that sustained low carbohydrate diets are damaging and a very bad idea. They do in fact work for fat loss in the short run, which is why so many people are buying into it.
- monting 12y ago
  > The problem is it totally breaks down into bad endocrine and metabolic problems after two or three years Citations please?

a8da6b0c91d 12y ago

Sugar does not cause inflammation. Sugar lowers cortisol and adrenaline levels. These stress hormones suppress existing inflammation. So in people with elevated catecholamine levels sugar intake tends to unmask damage and initiate a healing process. This is related to the reason people think low carb diets work. Low carb dieting sends stress hormones way up, because cortisol is necessary to break down proteins into needed sugars. People tend to feel pretty good at first in this state. The problem is it totally breaks down into bad endocrine and metabolic problems after two or three years. Nobody debates that ketogenic diets seem to work for weight loss in the short run; the issue is that in the long run they're a health disaster.

ithought 12y ago
I do not believe that is true. I can eat greasy hamburgers minus the bun and feel completely fine. I thought the body would use fat and ketones to convert to energy and only convert a very small percentage of protein to glucose. From the Harvard Medical School Family Health Guide: "Don't be so refined. The bolus of blood sugar that accompanies a meal or snack of highly refined carbohydrates (white bread, white rice, French fries, sugar-laden soda, etc.) increases levels of inflammatory messengers called cytokines. Eating whole-grain bread, brown rice, and other whole grains smooths out the after-meal rise in blood sugar and insulin, and dampens cytokine production." http://www.health.harvard.edu/fhg/updates/What-you-eat-can-fuel-or-cool-inflammation-a-key-driver-of-heart-disease-diabetes-and-other-chronic-conditions.shtml http://www.health.harvard.edu/fhg/updates/What-you-eat-can-f...
- a8da6b0c91d 12y ago
  The cytokine release is exactly what I was describing. It only happens when there is damage and infection to heal. You do not see an inflammation response in a healthy person when they eat sugar/starch. The glycemic index stuff is pretty much nonsense. If you don't have type I diabetes your body is perfectly happy to sop up spikes of sugar and it does no harm at all.
  - ithought 12y ago
    Thanks. Can you recommend a book? So the claim that on a ketogenic diet your brain only needs 5% of energy from protein (to make glucose) and the rest from fats and ketones is wrong?
    - a8da6b0c91d 12y ago
      I would recommend Ari Whitten's "Forever Fat Loss" as a book on fat loss nutrition. I don't know all the detailed claims ketogenic diet advocates make, all I know is that sustained low carbohydrate diets are damaging and a very bad idea. They do in fact work for fat loss in the short run, which is why so many people are buying into it.
monting 12y ago
> The problem is it totally breaks down into bad endocrine and metabolic problems after two or three years Citations please?