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Falsifiability is just a lot harder at a macro scale like the planet. It's more like astrophysics than classical physics. Perhaps even harder because you don'

Falsifiability is just a lot harder at a macro scale like the planet. It's more like astrophysics than classical physics. Perhaps even harder because you don't have discrete bodies and large spaces, you just have one heavily intertwined body of interactions. I don't think that makes it strictly non-falsifiable, it just makes it a little fuzzier where you have to accept that there are too many variables to isolate, and you need to take clues and relative changes to be worth something even if there isn't a controlled scenario that science would prefer. The worst part of climate change science isn't the uncertainty, it's the fact that any uncertainty will be grasped upon by the oligarchy to create FUD in favor of the status quo that generated their fortunes. That systemic bias could well be the end of the species as we are collectively unable to pull our heads out of our asses.

tbrownaw 12y ago
any uncertainty will be grasped upon by the oligarchy to create FUD in favor of the status quo that generated their fortunes Ah, but it will also be grasped by researchers to create FUD in favor of sensationalism so they can get more grants and maybe become famous for Saving The World. That systemic bias could well be the end of the species as we are collectively unable to pull our heads out of our asses. Sure. Or equally unlikely, the opposite systemic bias causes the end of the species as a result of banning all effective telephone cleaning chemicals since they react with water to produce greenhouse gasses.
- satellitecat 12y ago
  Maybe they want to save the world for the world's sake. I am generally in favour of the world.
  - lotsofmangos 12y ago
    There is a war against Terra. Or terror. Can't be terror though. You can't have a war against terror. That's obvious. Must be Terra then. We surely aren't led by idiots. After all. I too am generally in favour of the world. --- satellitecat: Release the kittens. I repeat: Release all the kittens.

tbrownaw 12y ago

any uncertainty will be grasped upon by the oligarchy to create FUD in favor of the status quo that generated their fortunes Ah, but it will also be grasped by researchers to create FUD in favor of sensationalism so they can get more grants and maybe become famous for Saving The World. That systemic bias could well be the end of the species as we are collectively unable to pull our heads out of our asses. Sure. Or equally unlikely, the opposite systemic bias causes the end of the species as a result of banning all effective telephone cleaning chemicals since they react with water to produce greenhouse gasses.

satellitecat 12y ago
Maybe they want to save the world for the world's sake. I am generally in favour of the world.
- lotsofmangos 12y ago
  There is a war against Terra. Or terror. Can't be terror though. You can't have a war against terror. That's obvious. Must be Terra then. We surely aren't led by idiots. After all. I too am generally in favour of the world. --- satellitecat: Release the kittens. I repeat: Release all the kittens.