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> Why are you taking this picture? It’s already on the Internet! I am taking it, so that I can use it whenever and wherever I want, without being afraid of "co

by rytis 12y ago

> Why are you taking this picture? It’s already on the Internet! I am taking it, so that I can use it whenever and wherever I want, without being afraid of "copyright" holders. Not ideal, but hey, such is life these days.

pavlov 12y ago
"These days"? You mean these days, when we have instant access to millions of Eiffel tower photos through a device not larger than a pocket mirror, yet life is a suffocating grind because some of those images are not licensed for redistribution. Copyright is the quintessential first-world problem, I guess.
- rytis 12y ago
  Exactly. "These days" you have 1 million photos of Eiffel tower, most look the same, bit blurry, not ideal lighting, etc. Yet you cannot really use them, unless you pay someone some amount of money, or you write an essay attributing them (and you spend 2 days figuring out what the license actually is for that piece of "art"). Say you want to make a t-shirt with a picture of Eiffel tower, with some catchy meme underneath, and sell it. You google/bing/whatnot for "picture of Eiffel tower", download the best looking image and silk print a t-shirt. Now, in an unlikely event it catches up, and you start selling in millions, what's going to happen? There's a good chance that you'll get a mail from someone who took that crappy picture and now demands a hefty sum in royalties. Well, just to avoid that, I take the picture. I don't care that there are millions of those taken already, they are not "mine". Yes, first-world problems, but they might be quire pricey. /rantover
  - pavlov 12y ago
    There are plenty of ways to find images that are properly licensed for that purpose, e.g. Creative Commons search on Flickr. Instead, you travel to Paris to take the picture yourself :/
    - kingnight 12y ago
      Nothing wrong with traveling to paris :) Also, nice phrase "life is a suffocating grind"!
  - Kiro 12y ago
    Still a terrible use of "these days" since you're implying it was better before.
mikeash 12y ago
Technology has, of course, solved this as well: https://www.flickr.com/search/?q=eiffel+tower&l=commderiv&ct=0&mt=all&adv=1 https://www.flickr.com/search/?q=eiffel+tower&l=commderiv&ct...
- rytis 12y ago
  Don't think so. The very first image has "Some rights reserved". If you click on that, it says "Attribution — You must give appropriate credit, provide a link to the license, and indicate if changes were made. You may do so in any reasonable manner, but not in any way that suggests the licensor endorses you or your use." I don't want to do that. Or even if I wanted, I don't want to spend time figuring out what exactly each clause in the license means. F* that, I'll just take the damn picture myself.
  - mikeash 12y ago
    You think that adding a small tag that tays, "Picture by X, license is http://whatever" http://whatever" is some high burden? You've transcended first-world problems and started in on the negative numbers.
    - rytis 12y ago
      No. Adding the tag is no burden. The burden is finding out what EXACTLY needs to be added. EDIT: Sometimes it's enough to mention the author, sometimes you need to provide link to the license as well, etc, etc.
      - mikeash 12y ago
        If you click the link, it tells you what's required. I stand by what I said.
logicallee 12y ago
Joke's on you, the Eiffel tower is itself copyrighted! :) http://www.redbubble.com/people/christinebetts/journal/2808231-copyright-issue-with-my-photo-of-the-eiffel-tower-at-night http://www.redbubble.com/people/christinebetts/journal/28082... Read up for yourself: https://www.google.com/search?q=eiffel+tower+copyrighted https://www.google.com/search?q=eiffel+tower+copyrighted
- JoeAltmaier 12y ago
  Yeah lots of 'public' things are copyright, strangely. The US national arboretum - you have to pay per photo if you take pictures of the plants!
  - yitchelle 12y ago
    But do they enforce the copyright?

by rytis 12y ago

pavlov 12y ago

"These days"? You mean these days, when we have instant access to millions of Eiffel tower photos through a device not larger than a pocket mirror, yet life is a suffocating grind because some of those images are not licensed for redistribution. Copyright is the quintessential first-world problem, I guess.

rytis 12y ago
Exactly. "These days" you have 1 million photos of Eiffel tower, most look the same, bit blurry, not ideal lighting, etc. Yet you cannot really use them, unless you pay someone some amount of money, or you write an essay attributing them (and you spend 2 days figuring out what the license actually is for that piece of "art"). Say you want to make a t-shirt with a picture of Eiffel tower, with some catchy meme underneath, and sell it. You google/bing/whatnot for "picture of Eiffel tower", download the best looking image and silk print a t-shirt. Now, in an unlikely event it catches up, and you start selling in millions, what's going to happen? There's a good chance that you'll get a mail from someone who took that crappy picture and now demands a hefty sum in royalties. Well, just to avoid that, I take the picture. I don't care that there are millions of those taken already, they are not "mine". Yes, first-world problems, but they might be quire pricey. /rantover
- pavlov 12y ago
  There are plenty of ways to find images that are properly licensed for that purpose, e.g. Creative Commons search on Flickr. Instead, you travel to Paris to take the picture yourself :/
  - kingnight 12y ago
    Nothing wrong with traveling to paris :) Also, nice phrase "life is a suffocating grind"!
- Kiro 12y ago
  Still a terrible use of "these days" since you're implying it was better before.

mikeash 12y ago

Technology has, of course, solved this as well: https://www.flickr.com/search/?q=eiffel+tower&l=commderiv&ct=0&mt=all&adv=1 https://www.flickr.com/search/?q=eiffel+tower&l=commderiv&ct...

rytis 12y ago
Don't think so. The very first image has "Some rights reserved". If you click on that, it says "Attribution — You must give appropriate credit, provide a link to the license, and indicate if changes were made. You may do so in any reasonable manner, but not in any way that suggests the licensor endorses you or your use." I don't want to do that. Or even if I wanted, I don't want to spend time figuring out what exactly each clause in the license means. F* that, I'll just take the damn picture myself.
- mikeash 12y ago
  You think that adding a small tag that tays, "Picture by X, license is http://whatever" http://whatever" is some high burden? You've transcended first-world problems and started in on the negative numbers.
  - rytis 12y ago
    No. Adding the tag is no burden. The burden is finding out what EXACTLY needs to be added. EDIT: Sometimes it's enough to mention the author, sometimes you need to provide link to the license as well, etc, etc.
    - mikeash 12y ago
      If you click the link, it tells you what's required. I stand by what I said.

logicallee 12y ago

Joke's on you, the Eiffel tower is itself copyrighted! :) http://www.redbubble.com/people/christinebetts/journal/2808231-copyright-issue-with-my-photo-of-the-eiffel-tower-at-night http://www.redbubble.com/people/christinebetts/journal/28082... Read up for yourself: https://www.google.com/search?q=eiffel+tower+copyrighted https://www.google.com/search?q=eiffel+tower+copyrighted

JoeAltmaier 12y ago
Yeah lots of 'public' things are copyright, strangely. The US national arboretum - you have to pay per photo if you take pictures of the plants!
- yitchelle 12y ago
  But do they enforce the copyright?