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People get treated like children when they behave like children. This isn't specific to software developers, though. I see grown men wearing shorts and flip-f
by thrownaway2424 12y ago
People get treated like children when they behave like children. This isn't specific to software developers, though. I see grown men wearing shorts and flip-flops quite frequently. These people are stuck in childhood. Where I work the carpenters are consistently better-dressed than the hackers, just by way of having pants and shoes. That's a bit sad, to me. I actually feel like I'll be ridiculed if I wear a collared shirt to work, although there is an identifiable backlash of properly-dressed adults in the office, which I applaud.
Anyway, I find it regrettable if the image of the profession is one of disheveled, slovenly, overgrown babies. I don't think that's healthy and I doubt it contributes much to diversifying away from white males.
- mikeash 12y agoWhat's "like children" about not wearing a suit and tie?
- freehunter 12y agoWhere do you work? Here in the Midwest, I've had only one job where I've been able to wear jeans. Every other tech job has required business casual, meaning a button-up and slacks same as everyone else in the company (except the sales guys, they generally wear suits). If you don't agree with the dress code of the company (and especially if you disagree that strongly), the company culture might not be a great fit for you. I've grown up expecting California tech workers to dress like Kevin Rose. I've grown up expecting everyone else to dress in business casual. I wouldn't say the image of the profession is necessarily disheveled. It depends on where you are and what company you work for.
- nitrogen 12y agoDevelopers have realized that the technology of fashion, just like that of software, doesn't need to be stuck in the past. There's nothing slovenly or disheveled about wearing nice jeans or nice shorts instead of stuffy slacks. Suits can look amazing, but they are just one tiny corner of the realm of possible styles, and nobody likes being backed into a corner.
- mikeash 12y agoWe should go back to togas. If it was good enough for Julius Caesar, it should be good enough for me.
- Turing_Machine 12y agoYou're claiming that forcing people to wear expensive (to buy and maintain) clothing that is hideously uncomfortable in any climate (other than its place of origin in the British Isles), and that is designed to enforce conformity with the most reactionary norms of the prevailing culture promotes "diversity"? Okay.
- Scuds 12y agoI've been contracting for fifteen years across many work environments, but I can only count on one hand people I'd describe as 'slovenly overgrown babies' who'll roll home after work and play EvE and Minecraft until 2 AM.