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I think it's a bit weird that instead of using this to promote their values (Decentralization, Freedom, Privacy as mentioned on their landing page [0]) they are

by dewey 12y ago

I think it's a bit weird that instead of using this to promote their values (Decentralization, Freedom, Privacy as mentioned on their landing page [0]) they are essentially pressuring pod admins to take down the content. I know they could just setup their own Pod but these values are what makes them any different from the likes of Twitter and I would've expected them to stand by them a bit more. [0] https://diasporafoundation.org/ https://diasporafoundation.org/

sp332 12y ago
They gave people the power to post really offensive and harmful things, but that doesn't mean they have to be happy when it happens.
- kordless 12y ago
  They gave people the ability to post things without threat of censorship. Whether or not they thought through the ramifications of all edge cases, how they feel about it, and what they do about is another matter entirely.
  - sp332 12y ago
    Diaspora is just a web app. If you already have a web server, you have the ability to post things without censorship. Diaspora doesn't add any anti-censorship abilities on top of that. In fact their main selling point is keeping things private.
bellerocky 12y ago
> I think it's a bit weird that instead of using this to promote their values (Decentralization, Freedom, Privacy as mentioned on their landing page [0]) they are essentially pressuring pod admins to take down the content. Yeah that's probably because the ISIS is known for suicide bombings, cutting off heads, video taping it so that the families and friends of the victim can see how gruesome their loved one died, killing unbelievers and tying multiple women to poles at the Mosul Dam to be raped. Not exactly the kind of thing you want to use to promote your values unless you're a psychopath. What the fuck.
- rjknight 12y ago
  Sounds like a good argument for letting them vent on the internet instead, then.
  - bellerocky 12y ago
    They're not venting, they're recruiting and spreading fear.
    - Alupis 12y ago
      And radical Christian groups in the US aren't?
      - bellerocky 12y ago
        Maybe, I don't know, how is that relevant? What is your argument? You think if a radical Christian group posted videos of murders online Twitter wouldn't ban it? What? Who are these people commenting today? Where did they come from?
        Alupis 12y ago
        I don't think anyone really takes issue with Twitter pulling down content -- they are a private company (as-in not controlled by the govt) -- but when a government starts censoring material (like in the UK were linking-to, or even viewing of this sort of material is considered illegal), that's where things get not-OK. What I find more outrageous was that the reporter apparently was held captive for 2 years... without anyone (in the public) knowing. Bergdahl was held captive for 5 years and luckily was returned in a controversial exchange. What is going on that we are not able to protect and/or recover our people? Seems to send a clear message that if you get captured by an extremists group like ISIS, the government won't come running in to save you, nor will the public even know you are missing -- fore the government doesn't want to stir public opinion into favoring some sort of military action. So, in essence -- you are all alone out there, potentially for years, or worse. -- That is outrageous to me.

by dewey 12y ago

sp332 12y ago

They gave people the power to post really offensive and harmful things, but that doesn't mean they have to be happy when it happens.

kordless 12y ago
They gave people the ability to post things without threat of censorship. Whether or not they thought through the ramifications of all edge cases, how they feel about it, and what they do about is another matter entirely.
- sp332 12y ago
  Diaspora is just a web app. If you already have a web server, you have the ability to post things without censorship. Diaspora doesn't add any anti-censorship abilities on top of that. In fact their main selling point is keeping things private.

bellerocky 12y ago

> I think it's a bit weird that instead of using this to promote their values (Decentralization, Freedom, Privacy as mentioned on their landing page [0]) they are essentially pressuring pod admins to take down the content. Yeah that's probably because the ISIS is known for suicide bombings, cutting off heads, video taping it so that the families and friends of the victim can see how gruesome their loved one died, killing unbelievers and tying multiple women to poles at the Mosul Dam to be raped. Not exactly the kind of thing you want to use to promote your values unless you're a psychopath. What the fuck.

rjknight 12y ago
Sounds like a good argument for letting them vent on the internet instead, then.
- bellerocky 12y ago
  They're not venting, they're recruiting and spreading fear.
  - Alupis 12y ago
    And radical Christian groups in the US aren't?
    - bellerocky 12y ago
      Maybe, I don't know, how is that relevant? What is your argument? You think if a radical Christian group posted videos of murders online Twitter wouldn't ban it? What? Who are these people commenting today? Where did they come from?
      - Alupis 12y ago
        I don't think anyone really takes issue with Twitter pulling down content -- they are a private company (as-in not controlled by the govt) -- but when a government starts censoring material (like in the UK were linking-to, or even viewing of this sort of material is considered illegal), that's where things get not-OK. What I find more outrageous was that the reporter apparently was held captive for 2 years... without anyone (in the public) knowing. Bergdahl was held captive for 5 years and luckily was returned in a controversial exchange. What is going on that we are not able to protect and/or recover our people? Seems to send a clear message that if you get captured by an extremists group like ISIS, the government won't come running in to save you, nor will the public even know you are missing -- fore the government doesn't want to stir public opinion into favoring some sort of military action. So, in essence -- you are all alone out there, potentially for years, or worse. -- That is outrageous to me.