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You're damning journald for things syslogd doesn't do either. Syslog is not reliable. Syslog is incredibly falsifiable (journald is not). Syslog does not handl
by evol262 12y ago
You're damning journald for things syslogd doesn't do either.
Syslog is not reliable. Syslog is incredibly falsifiable (journald is not). Syslog does not handle system crashes well either (pretty much the case where journald gets corrupted).
Syslog also doesn't capture application logs. Syslog does not hand over from dracut. Syslog guarantees nothing.
Don't present it as a step backwards when it's a step forwards, albeit with some warts. Even in its worst case, journald still provides more functionality and more security than syslog, and you can still use your normal syslogger
- vezzy-fnord 12y agoFrom my experiences with Fedora 20, journal corruptions happen in seemingly random cases. Not on any system crashes either, but just clean reboots. As well as other general systemd issues occasionally, including message bus queue freezes. The plaintext medium is more reliable, largely because recovery can be performed with any generic tools that operate on text streams. Third-party journal readers, on the other hand, are discouraged.