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If they're going to blast these ads into the backs of our eyeballs, we should at least get a chance to discuss back at them. For example, about the fact that o

If they're going to blast these ads into the backs of our eyeballs, we should at least get a chance to discuss back at them. For example, about the fact that one of them presents the following as a "perk": 1.1 mile [sic] from Mt. View Caltrain Which makes for like, what, a 90-minute commute[1] from your $3300 crashpad in the Mission? On good days? That's some life they're trying to dangle in front of us. [1] Door-to-door, not counting time spent picking up your $6 artisan latte and/or dropping off your fancy dog at the dog cleaning shop.

mischanix 12y ago
Ah, don't worry about that, working 18 hours a day you'll hardly remember the commute!
danso 12y ago
Yeah I don't think that's going to happen...mainly because that would greatly reduce the value to the ad-purchaser...they're interested in hiring someone, not igniting one of the various archetypical debates about startup culture. And also, it would greatly increase the burden on HN moderators, and in such a way that it would be a lose-lose situation when it comes to credibility. If you allow comments, you allow the possibility of not just well-intentioned debate, but trolling (thanks to HN's generous account-creation policy)...which means, heavy-handed moderation at certain points. Which would you prefer: across-the-board, default policy of not allowing direct comments...or HN mods constantly having to justify the removal/downmodding of trollish comments against endless conflict-of-interest accusations?
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  - danso 12y ago
    I think that horse has pretty much sailed from the barn ever since Paul Graham, founder of YC, announced he was going to create Hacker News, and put it as a subdomain of "ycombinator.com"
- presty 12y ago
  are you sure the "ads" are purchased? afaik the ads are only possible for yc startups and I don't think they are "paid" also, since feedback should be encouraged, I can see hn job ads allowing comments...
jrockway 12y ago
Native speakers of English will say "one point one mile from XXX", so I'm not sure a [sic] is warranted there. It's weird and inconsistent, but welcome to English. You can Caltrain from Santa Clara or something and ride your bike the remaining 1.1 mile if you feel like it. Doesn't sound too terrible, as bay area commutes go. (You know the world is fucked up when an apartment in Manhattan is cheaper than an apartment in Mountain View though! Though Mountain View does have nicer weather. And mountains to view, if you have a telescope.)
- jarek 12y ago
  Ah, Santa Clara: all the affordability of Bay Area and all the excitement of a suburban business park
  - jrockway 12y ago
    There's also some big venue built entirely from denim, I heard.
- JoeAltmaier 12y ago
  Not this native speaker of English. That's just weird. Its '1.1 miles', '2 and a half gallons' and '0.5 seconds' thank you.
- zo1 12y ago
  "Native speakers of English will say "one point one mile from XXX"," First I've heard of this. 1.1 miles is the correct way to say it, as far as I'm aware. Even if it was less than 1 mile, if it's not an exact 1 then it is viewed as a "multiple". "0.8 miles away" is perfectly valid.
- dreamweapon 12y ago
  Native speakers of English will say "one point one mile from XXX", I'm also a native speaker, and I've never heard a single instance of that usage. For "mile", or for any other unit of linear unit of measurement (which would otherwise take the default conjugation according to number). Excepting, of course, for 8 Mile.

mischanix 12y ago

Ah, don't worry about that, working 18 hours a day you'll hardly remember the commute!

danso 12y ago

Yeah I don't think that's going to happen...mainly because that would greatly reduce the value to the ad-purchaser...they're interested in hiring someone, not igniting one of the various archetypical debates about startup culture. And also, it would greatly increase the burden on HN moderators, and in such a way that it would be a lose-lose situation when it comes to credibility. If you allow comments, you allow the possibility of not just well-intentioned debate, but trolling (thanks to HN's generous account-creation policy)...which means, heavy-handed moderation at certain points. Which would you prefer: across-the-board, default policy of not allowing direct comments...or HN mods constantly having to justify the removal/downmodding of trollish comments against endless conflict-of-interest accusations?

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- danso 12y ago
  I think that horse has pretty much sailed from the barn ever since Paul Graham, founder of YC, announced he was going to create Hacker News, and put it as a subdomain of "ycombinator.com"
presty 12y ago
are you sure the "ads" are purchased? afaik the ads are only possible for yc startups and I don't think they are "paid" also, since feedback should be encouraged, I can see hn job ads allowing comments...

jrockway 12y ago

Native speakers of English will say "one point one mile from XXX", so I'm not sure a [sic] is warranted there. It's weird and inconsistent, but welcome to English. You can Caltrain from Santa Clara or something and ride your bike the remaining 1.1 mile if you feel like it. Doesn't sound too terrible, as bay area commutes go. (You know the world is fucked up when an apartment in Manhattan is cheaper than an apartment in Mountain View though! Though Mountain View does have nicer weather. And mountains to view, if you have a telescope.)

jarek 12y ago
Ah, Santa Clara: all the affordability of Bay Area and all the excitement of a suburban business park
- jrockway 12y ago
  There's also some big venue built entirely from denim, I heard.
JoeAltmaier 12y ago
Not this native speaker of English. That's just weird. Its '1.1 miles', '2 and a half gallons' and '0.5 seconds' thank you.
zo1 12y ago
"Native speakers of English will say "one point one mile from XXX"," First I've heard of this. 1.1 miles is the correct way to say it, as far as I'm aware. Even if it was less than 1 mile, if it's not an exact 1 then it is viewed as a "multiple". "0.8 miles away" is perfectly valid.
dreamweapon 12y ago
Native speakers of English will say "one point one mile from XXX", I'm also a native speaker, and I've never heard a single instance of that usage. For "mile", or for any other unit of linear unit of measurement (which would otherwise take the default conjugation according to number). Excepting, of course, for 8 Mile.