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Thank you for all your cloud first, mobile first. I think that cloud first, mobile first, but that cloud first, mobile first. If only cloud first, mobile first,

by kjjw 12y ago

Thank you for all your cloud first, mobile first. I think that cloud first, mobile first, but that cloud first, mobile first. If only cloud first, mobile first,then cloud first, mobile first. But I digress, because what is really important here is our cloud first, mobile first strategy, which will require much cloud first, mobile first along with cloud first, mobile first. I reckon Ballmer's PR drone won this one though. More words.

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smanuel 12y ago
I'm lost. Which one is first and which one is first? Cloud is important and has to be first. But if cloud is first then mobile is first. And vice versa.
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- ossreality 12y ago
  1. You spelled cloud wrong. 2. OneBox is far from being our "cloud" offering. 3. OneBox and OneBox for Business are two separate products whose name similarity is basically a coincidence.
BigTuna 12y ago
This post is just phenomenal with the cloud to butt extension.
- blueskin_ 12y ago
  I was thinking the exact same thing.
higherpurpose 12y ago
Someone should make a word cloud out of cloud first and mobile first.
- pjmorris 12y ago
  cloud FIRST mobile
  - rapind 12y ago
    That was wide open for 3 hours. Well done sir.
ramayac 12y ago
You forgot about: cloud first, mobile first, and that I hold more Microsoft shares than anyone other than index funds and love the mix of profits, investments and dividends returned in our stock. It's right after cloud first and mobile first.
gone35 12y ago
I think the recursive transition network was also meant to include 'social-first' and 'local-first', but they forgot to proofread the output before hitting publish. Rookie mistake.
guiambros 12y ago
Can't understand the snarkiness and silly jokes. I mean, I get it, this is Steve Ballmer, the guy everyone loves to hate. But we can be better than that. Of course the letter was carefully worded to sound like a press release; it is a press release. But the entire memo strikes me as a thoughtful summary of what Microsoft will face over the next 10 years. The company is transitioning from the cash cow of software business to a much, much more complex environment. One driven by platforms and ecosystems, built on top of open source stacks, where hardware is key to the experience, frequently monetized by ad revenue. The shareholders - who typically don't read HN - don't fully understand the shift, and won't like the thinner margins. They want results, now. But some of the bets - mobile, cloud, hardware - will take years to pay off, just like the battle for home entertainment took 10+ years, and the judge is still out. "Making that change while also managing the existing [cash cow] software business..." This. The next 10 years won't be easy for Microsoft, and that's why Ballmer mentioned - four times - that Nadella should be bold and not fear the shareholders. Also I don't understand why people are nitpicking with mobile first, cloud first wording. They're not mutually exclusive. It's about empowering companies developing mobile experiences for their workforce, using cloud-based systems. And figuring out how to make money.
- Chronic29 12y ago
  No we can't be better than that. Let us post our comments and if you disagree with them you can down vote them.
- andrewb 12y ago
  The only comment at this level which is constructive and thoughtful gets the downvote? My thoughts were there is nothing wrong with saying mobile-first and cloud-first. They are complementary to each other. i.e. You build your mobile apps using a cloud backend.
beavis2 12y ago
Mobile + cloud to me just infers "thin client + central server". Ironic; The very thing that MS helped the world move away from. Anyway, they were late to both parties, now it's full steam ahead to catch up with the rest, whatever the cost (Windows). Shame, I once liked their desktop until they turned it into a phone/tablet.
- blueskin_ 12y ago
  Yep. Of course, thin client models are even worse in these days of PRISM than they were back in the day. The truth is, anyone who flogs it doesn't care about privacy, only their shareholders.

by kjjw 12y ago

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smanuel 12y ago

I'm lost. Which one is first and which one is first? Cloud is important and has to be first. But if cloud is first then mobile is first. And vice versa.

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ossreality 12y ago
1. You spelled cloud wrong. 2. OneBox is far from being our "cloud" offering. 3. OneBox and OneBox for Business are two separate products whose name similarity is basically a coincidence.

BigTuna 12y ago

This post is just phenomenal with the cloud to butt extension.

blueskin_ 12y ago
I was thinking the exact same thing.

higherpurpose 12y ago

Someone should make a word cloud out of cloud first and mobile first.

pjmorris 12y ago
cloud FIRST mobile
- rapind 12y ago
  That was wide open for 3 hours. Well done sir.

ramayac 12y ago

You forgot about: cloud first, mobile first, and that I hold more Microsoft shares than anyone other than index funds and love the mix of profits, investments and dividends returned in our stock. It's right after cloud first and mobile first.

gone35 12y ago

I think the recursive transition network was also meant to include 'social-first' and 'local-first', but they forgot to proofread the output before hitting publish. Rookie mistake.

guiambros 12y ago

Can't understand the snarkiness and silly jokes. I mean, I get it, this is Steve Ballmer, the guy everyone loves to hate. But we can be better than that. Of course the letter was carefully worded to sound like a press release; it is a press release. But the entire memo strikes me as a thoughtful summary of what Microsoft will face over the next 10 years. The company is transitioning from the cash cow of software business to a much, much more complex environment. One driven by platforms and ecosystems, built on top of open source stacks, where hardware is key to the experience, frequently monetized by ad revenue. The shareholders - who typically don't read HN - don't fully understand the shift, and won't like the thinner margins. They want results, now. But some of the bets - mobile, cloud, hardware - will take years to pay off, just like the battle for home entertainment took 10+ years, and the judge is still out. "Making that change while also managing the existing [cash cow] software business..." This. The next 10 years won't be easy for Microsoft, and that's why Ballmer mentioned - four times - that Nadella should be bold and not fear the shareholders. Also I don't understand why people are nitpicking with mobile first, cloud first wording. They're not mutually exclusive. It's about empowering companies developing mobile experiences for their workforce, using cloud-based systems. And figuring out how to make money.

Chronic29 12y ago
No we can't be better than that. Let us post our comments and if you disagree with them you can down vote them.
andrewb 12y ago
The only comment at this level which is constructive and thoughtful gets the downvote? My thoughts were there is nothing wrong with saying mobile-first and cloud-first. They are complementary to each other. i.e. You build your mobile apps using a cloud backend.

beavis2 12y ago

Mobile + cloud to me just infers "thin client + central server". Ironic; The very thing that MS helped the world move away from. Anyway, they were late to both parties, now it's full steam ahead to catch up with the rest, whatever the cost (Windows). Shame, I once liked their desktop until they turned it into a phone/tablet.

blueskin_ 12y ago
Yep. Of course, thin client models are even worse in these days of PRISM than they were back in the day. The truth is, anyone who flogs it doesn't care about privacy, only their shareholders.