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Just curios if Google is going to pay the ticket if a cop stops the car.

by lsh123 12y ago

praptak 12y ago
I admit I'm not keeping up with the news but doesn't the law still require that a human driver be present in the car?
- Zitrax 12y ago
  According to Wikipedia some laws even require a passenger: "Nevada's regulations require a person behind the wheel and one in the passenger’s seat during tests".
Aldo_MX 12y ago
Not likely
talmand 12y ago
I've seen similar questions arise from the thought of accidents. If a self-driving car causes a crash, who's responsible? The owner or the manufacturer? Another random thought: do the cars respond to a police officer trying to pull them over?
- krapp 12y ago
  >If a self-driving car causes a crash, who's responsible? The owner or the manufacturer? My two cents: if the car has the capacity for manual override, the owner (negligence) otherwise the manufacturer. >do the cars respond to a police officer trying to pull them over? Legally, humans are supposed to, so why would it be different for self-driving cars (which can at least be programmed to give control over to a third party when requested?)
  - TheLoneWolfling 12y ago
    > if the car has the capacity for manual override, the owner (negligence) There are plenty of ways a self-driving car could mess up and cause an accident where you do not have enough time to react to it. Not "you should have been paying more attention". As in "You are not superhuman enough to react in time, period". Say, swerving on the highway into oncoming traffic. Some (incredibly rough) numbers: if you're going 108km/h and the car suddenly swerves into the other lane of a two-lane highway, if it's 20m between start of swerve and hitting the vehicle in the other lane, that's 2/3 of a second. You can't do that. You (or rather, an average person) are not going to be able to recover in time. The reaction time for an alert driver is something like 0.7s on average. [1] And that's not the most pessimistic assumptions either. [1] First link I found: http://www.technology-assoc.com/articles/reaction-time.html http://www.technology-assoc.com/articles/reaction-time.html
    - krapp 12y ago
      Maybe. I can imagine that in any other circumstance that the driver would be liable where they would be considered liable in a standard car. But of course if the self-driving car makes it impossible to react then that probably lies on the manufacturer. At that point you might as well blame the passenger of a commercial airliner for the autopilot going wrong.
- bsder 12y ago
  > If a self-driving car causes a crash, who's responsible? The owner or the manufacturer? Manufacturer. However, what's going to eventually fall out is that self-driving cars are going to be SO much safer, that insurance companies eventually won't let YOU drive.
deepsun 12y ago
If driver manually overridden the speed setting, then yes. In case of other accidents -- pays insurance (and their pricing will be the best indication of how safe these cars are).

Just curios if Google is going to pay the ticket if a cop stops the car.

by lsh123 12y ago

Just curios if Google is going to pay the ticket if a cop stops the car.

praptak 12y ago

I admit I'm not keeping up with the news but doesn't the law still require that a human driver be present in the car?

Zitrax 12y ago
According to Wikipedia some laws even require a passenger: "Nevada's regulations require a person behind the wheel and one in the passenger’s seat during tests".

Aldo_MX 12y ago

Not likely

talmand 12y ago

I've seen similar questions arise from the thought of accidents. If a self-driving car causes a crash, who's responsible? The owner or the manufacturer? Another random thought: do the cars respond to a police officer trying to pull them over?

krapp 12y ago
>If a self-driving car causes a crash, who's responsible? The owner or the manufacturer? My two cents: if the car has the capacity for manual override, the owner (negligence) otherwise the manufacturer. >do the cars respond to a police officer trying to pull them over? Legally, humans are supposed to, so why would it be different for self-driving cars (which can at least be programmed to give control over to a third party when requested?)
- TheLoneWolfling 12y ago
  > if the car has the capacity for manual override, the owner (negligence) There are plenty of ways a self-driving car could mess up and cause an accident where you do not have enough time to react to it. Not "you should have been paying more attention". As in "You are not superhuman enough to react in time, period". Say, swerving on the highway into oncoming traffic. Some (incredibly rough) numbers: if you're going 108km/h and the car suddenly swerves into the other lane of a two-lane highway, if it's 20m between start of swerve and hitting the vehicle in the other lane, that's 2/3 of a second. You can't do that. You (or rather, an average person) are not going to be able to recover in time. The reaction time for an alert driver is something like 0.7s on average. [1] And that's not the most pessimistic assumptions either. [1] First link I found: http://www.technology-assoc.com/articles/reaction-time.html http://www.technology-assoc.com/articles/reaction-time.html
  - krapp 12y ago
    Maybe. I can imagine that in any other circumstance that the driver would be liable where they would be considered liable in a standard car. But of course if the self-driving car makes it impossible to react then that probably lies on the manufacturer. At that point you might as well blame the passenger of a commercial airliner for the autopilot going wrong.
bsder 12y ago
> If a self-driving car causes a crash, who's responsible? The owner or the manufacturer? Manufacturer. However, what's going to eventually fall out is that self-driving cars are going to be SO much safer, that insurance companies eventually won't let YOU drive.

deepsun 12y ago

If driver manually overridden the speed setting, then yes. In case of other accidents -- pays insurance (and their pricing will be the best indication of how safe these cars are).