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>>this is the best argument for basic income You only feel the need for a basic income because you are currently strapped for time and you crave for more time

by kamaal 12y ago

>>this is the best argument for basic income You only feel the need for a basic income because you are currently strapped for time and you crave for more time to work on something far more creative. Once time comes in abundant supply you will now be faced with a situation where you will have a lot of time and won't really understand the reason why you would want to work hard(Your basic needs are met) or spend time doing <some work of interest>, since you now have unlimited time to delay those projects. People generally think they can pull of miracles if they get time. Instead what happens is most people wake up late, sleep late, waste time doing pointless stuff. As a general rule you will only consider things in short supply as precious. Which is why being busy is probably a good idea, because that way you will value the most important thing in your life-- time and opportunities.

zxcvvcxz 12y ago
A good point to be sure, but I disagree entirely in my own case. In fact I realized this a while ago and put strict controls so that I actually earn whatever free time I have. My current schedule looks something like: wake up at 7am, apply to jobs during the morning, then I get to work on side projects and read technical texts the rest of the day, usually a good 6+ hrs (with exercise and some people time thrown in). I fear for the day I actually get a job, haha...
- TeMPOraL 12y ago
  > I fear for the day I actually get a job The fear is well-founded. When you get a job you'll find yourself with no time for much technical texts and side projects. I wish you find a fulfilling job though, working on what feels like bullcrap to you is terribly frustrating.
TeMPOraL 12y ago
You have a point and it's definitely true that for many, the big part of the desire to do something creative that is not job comes from being busy and not having time to do this. But I doubt that if you got rid of jobs, people would waste time. I sometimes wondered why I can't seem to be as productive, or learn as much fast enough, as I had been in high school or when I started university. I realized that it's not that I was a fast learner there, it was that I had tons of free time to throw at stuff without having to worry about deadlines, or bullshit like a job. > most people wake up late, sleep late Many people don't sleep enough for a healthy and productive life. "Sleeping late" is often "sleeping the amount you should, but don't, because you're too busy".
- kamaal 12y ago
  A basic thing I notice is every time I'm working on a interesting project at work, or when I change jobs the craving for a side project decreases. But then there are only that many interesting things you can do in this industry for years. Beyond that you need to keep moving towards something new every 1 - 1.5 years. If you are lucky you will end up in a company that will let you go after interesting projects and will upgrade your responsibilities with your experience. Else you will have to keep looking for them outside, or start a side project in your spare time. I have a mentor who is quite a successful guy. I've grilled him enough to know the biggest secret is refusal to work for anything that sounds uninteresting. If you look at his career history, it just comes clear that he never touches any project that demands maintenance or support. Its through and through new interesting projects which involve innovating or building new platforms, frameworks or systems. I think Steve Jobs's advice comes handy: I think if you do something and it turns out pretty good, then you should go do something else wonderful, not dwell on it for too long. Just figure out what's next.

by kamaal 12y ago

zxcvvcxz 12y ago

A good point to be sure, but I disagree entirely in my own case. In fact I realized this a while ago and put strict controls so that I actually earn whatever free time I have. My current schedule looks something like: wake up at 7am, apply to jobs during the morning, then I get to work on side projects and read technical texts the rest of the day, usually a good 6+ hrs (with exercise and some people time thrown in). I fear for the day I actually get a job, haha...

TeMPOraL 12y ago
> I fear for the day I actually get a job The fear is well-founded. When you get a job you'll find yourself with no time for much technical texts and side projects. I wish you find a fulfilling job though, working on what feels like bullcrap to you is terribly frustrating.

TeMPOraL 12y ago

You have a point and it's definitely true that for many, the big part of the desire to do something creative that is not job comes from being busy and not having time to do this. But I doubt that if you got rid of jobs, people would waste time. I sometimes wondered why I can't seem to be as productive, or learn as much fast enough, as I had been in high school or when I started university. I realized that it's not that I was a fast learner there, it was that I had tons of free time to throw at stuff without having to worry about deadlines, or bullshit like a job. > most people wake up late, sleep late Many people don't sleep enough for a healthy and productive life. "Sleeping late" is often "sleeping the amount you should, but don't, because you're too busy".

kamaal 12y ago
A basic thing I notice is every time I'm working on a interesting project at work, or when I change jobs the craving for a side project decreases. But then there are only that many interesting things you can do in this industry for years. Beyond that you need to keep moving towards something new every 1 - 1.5 years. If you are lucky you will end up in a company that will let you go after interesting projects and will upgrade your responsibilities with your experience. Else you will have to keep looking for them outside, or start a side project in your spare time. I have a mentor who is quite a successful guy. I've grilled him enough to know the biggest secret is refusal to work for anything that sounds uninteresting. If you look at his career history, it just comes clear that he never touches any project that demands maintenance or support. Its through and through new interesting projects which involve innovating or building new platforms, frameworks or systems. I think Steve Jobs's advice comes handy: I think if you do something and it turns out pretty good, then you should go do something else wonderful, not dwell on it for too long. Just figure out what's next.