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I can give you my source code and allow you to change it, but if you want to execute a compiled result of that source code I can still ask you to pay me for it.

by erikb 12y ago

I can give you my source code and allow you to change it, but if you want to execute a compiled result of that source code I can still ask you to pay me for it. And while there is no physical thing stopping you from executing the binary without my permission, I think you would still be unlikely to do so, if you know how much work I've put into it and you know that I would like you to give me a few bucks. I'd trust you that far even without knowing you. That's what I want to say.

jrochkind1 12y ago
You can do that, but it wouldn't be considered "open source" by most people, or by the OSI. http://opensource.org/osd-annotated http://opensource.org/osd-annotated > The program must include source code, and must allow distribution in source code as well as compiled form. ... > The license must allow modifications and derived works, and must allow them to be distributed under the same terms as the license of the original software. ... > The license must explicitly permit distribution of software built from modified source code. And "physical things stopping you" from running/distributing software are pretty much irrelevant/nonexistent always, this is all about legal restrictions and licensing, not physical things.
- judk 12y ago
  Your quotes say "distribution", not "except execution"
  - jrochkind1 12y ago
    distribution in source code as well as compiled form. distribution of software _built from_. Or you're saying it could be considered an open source license if it allowed people to distribute, but not run, executable binaries? Yeah, I don't think most people would consider that open source.
patrickg 12y ago
"...but if you want to execute a compiled result of that source code I can still ask you to pay me for it." morally: yes. Legally? I don't think that there is a law (German law is the one that I know a bit) that allows you restrict the usage of a piece of software.
- erikb 12y ago
  When you buy a game on Steam, what kind of license do you buy? I think it's a license that allows you to play the game, i.e., use the binary. But I'm certainly not a lawyer.
  - xaqfox 12y ago
    I have not looked in over a year, but the Steam licenses used to be very careful about avoiding the word, "buy", altogether and instead used the word, "rent".
  - patrickg 12y ago
    Licenses are to my knowledge always part of copying, not of executing. That is: you may download a game to your computer, if you've got the permission. But Steam cannot tell you that you are only allowed to run the game on wednesdays.
  - nknighthb 12y ago
    If you buy a cookbook, you don't need a separate license to execute the recipes.

by erikb 12y ago

jrochkind1 12y ago

You can do that, but it wouldn't be considered "open source" by most people, or by the OSI. http://opensource.org/osd-annotated http://opensource.org/osd-annotated > The program must include source code, and must allow distribution in source code as well as compiled form. ... > The license must allow modifications and derived works, and must allow them to be distributed under the same terms as the license of the original software. ... > The license must explicitly permit distribution of software built from modified source code. And "physical things stopping you" from running/distributing software are pretty much irrelevant/nonexistent always, this is all about legal restrictions and licensing, not physical things.

judk 12y ago
Your quotes say "distribution", not "except execution"
- jrochkind1 12y ago
  distribution in source code as well as compiled form. distribution of software _built from_. Or you're saying it could be considered an open source license if it allowed people to distribute, but not run, executable binaries? Yeah, I don't think most people would consider that open source.

patrickg 12y ago

"...but if you want to execute a compiled result of that source code I can still ask you to pay me for it." morally: yes. Legally? I don't think that there is a law (German law is the one that I know a bit) that allows you restrict the usage of a piece of software.

erikb 12y ago
When you buy a game on Steam, what kind of license do you buy? I think it's a license that allows you to play the game, i.e., use the binary. But I'm certainly not a lawyer.
- xaqfox 12y ago
  I have not looked in over a year, but the Steam licenses used to be very careful about avoiding the word, "buy", altogether and instead used the word, "rent".
- patrickg 12y ago
  Licenses are to my knowledge always part of copying, not of executing. That is: you may download a game to your computer, if you've got the permission. But Steam cannot tell you that you are only allowed to run the game on wednesdays.
- nknighthb 12y ago
  If you buy a cookbook, you don't need a separate license to execute the recipes.