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Oh goodness, I'm sorry, but I can't get past that chunky window toolbar. I use editors like sublime instead of an IDE so my screen real estate isn't taken up by

Oh goodness, I'm sorry, but I can't get past that chunky window toolbar. I use editors like sublime instead of an IDE so my screen real estate isn't taken up by buttons to leave as much room as possible for my code. If that isn't right, there must be untold frustrations in the path of using this editor for me that I don't care to discover.

beefsack 12y ago
The frontends are barely started yet, most development focus so far has been backend including plugin and Textmate compatibility.
easytiger 12y ago
> I use editors like sublime instead of an IDE so my screen real estate isn't taken up by buttons to leave as much room as possible for my code Why not use something in a terminal with almost no interface then, say emacs or vi. All they require you to have is a mental model of what you are working on which you should have anyway/
- m_mueller 12y ago
  If parent is like me: I like to use a pointer device, particularly together with sublimes multicursor implementation. See some entries that you want to edit simultaneously, but their pattern is complex to express? In emacs I would just give up and do it manually, in Sublime I can hold down Command, click each position and then apply any edit command. Happens very often in my kind of work.
  - vbsteven 12y ago
    I got exactly the same behaviour in emacs by installing the 'multiple-cursors package and adding the following to my .emacs file (require 'multiple-cursors) (global-unset-key (kbd "M-<down-mouse-1>")) (global-set-key (kbd "M-<mouse-1>") 'mc/add-cursor-on-click)
    - m_mueller 12y ago
      Ok that's interesting. The following features are also crucial to me: * Tree view * Split window with synchronized views when showing the same file * Regex search over file or selection, results can be turned into multicursors (!) * Regex search over multiple files or directories * Multicursors at each line for a selection * Auto-update of views when file underneath changes (editor should ask what to do in case of edits) I'm sure all of this can be achieved with Emacs - my question is: How long will it take me to set up? Will the result be portable, e.g. can I copy some config file unto any POSIX machine and use it from there in an ssh terminal? That last point would be the main draw for me on why to switch to Emacs, since with Sublime I have to mount the drives (with Expandrive) which works well for the essential things, however there are details like the treeview not updating in that case.
      - easytiger 12y ago
        Interesting, I guess it is just an editing preference. Multiple cursors i associate with mouse use (I know it isn't the same but I bet most people use the mouse with them). I consider touching the mouse dangerous for myself and for productivity. > Tree View This i fully understand (and exisits in emacs) but I think not necessary either for my workflow. A treeview does already exist in a format called folders and files ;) I prefer to know the structure of the directories I'm working in and rarely require a reference to them visually > Split window with synchronized views when showing the same file I do too and this is a very basic emacs feature > Regex Emacs has a massive number of regex and non regex search options. Though usually i simply use Ctrl-Z; grep; fg, which is less efficient but fits my mental model better. But ctrl-h a <regex> has ~ 34 commands on my machine. Including things like dired-do-isearch-regexp > Multicursors at each line for a selection No idea what this means sadly! > Auto-update of views when file underneath changes (editor should ask what to do in case of edits) I doubt any editor handles this stuff as well as emacs and is invoked in my environments daily. Apart from multicursor stuff (that i do not see the point of for my workflow) everything you mention is a very very old basic emacs feature.
        m_mueller 12y ago
fyolnish 12y ago
That's iTerm
- 3rd3 12y ago
  http://i.imgur.com/Maj7m7L.png http://i.imgur.com/Maj7m7L.png
unicornporn 12y ago
In many (most?) OS X applications you can right click the toolbar and chose "Use Small Size". Perhaps so in this app too...

beefsack 12y ago

The frontends are barely started yet, most development focus so far has been backend including plugin and Textmate compatibility.

easytiger 12y ago

> I use editors like sublime instead of an IDE so my screen real estate isn't taken up by buttons to leave as much room as possible for my code Why not use something in a terminal with almost no interface then, say emacs or vi. All they require you to have is a mental model of what you are working on which you should have anyway/

m_mueller 12y ago
If parent is like me: I like to use a pointer device, particularly together with sublimes multicursor implementation. See some entries that you want to edit simultaneously, but their pattern is complex to express? In emacs I would just give up and do it manually, in Sublime I can hold down Command, click each position and then apply any edit command. Happens very often in my kind of work.
- vbsteven 12y ago
  I got exactly the same behaviour in emacs by installing the 'multiple-cursors package and adding the following to my .emacs file (require 'multiple-cursors) (global-unset-key (kbd "M-<down-mouse-1>")) (global-set-key (kbd "M-<mouse-1>") 'mc/add-cursor-on-click)
  - m_mueller 12y ago
    Ok that's interesting. The following features are also crucial to me: * Tree view * Split window with synchronized views when showing the same file * Regex search over file or selection, results can be turned into multicursors (!) * Regex search over multiple files or directories * Multicursors at each line for a selection * Auto-update of views when file underneath changes (editor should ask what to do in case of edits) I'm sure all of this can be achieved with Emacs - my question is: How long will it take me to set up? Will the result be portable, e.g. can I copy some config file unto any POSIX machine and use it from there in an ssh terminal? That last point would be the main draw for me on why to switch to Emacs, since with Sublime I have to mount the drives (with Expandrive) which works well for the essential things, however there are details like the treeview not updating in that case.
    - easytiger 12y ago
      Interesting, I guess it is just an editing preference. Multiple cursors i associate with mouse use (I know it isn't the same but I bet most people use the mouse with them). I consider touching the mouse dangerous for myself and for productivity. > Tree View This i fully understand (and exisits in emacs) but I think not necessary either for my workflow. A treeview does already exist in a format called folders and files ;) I prefer to know the structure of the directories I'm working in and rarely require a reference to them visually > Split window with synchronized views when showing the same file I do too and this is a very basic emacs feature > Regex Emacs has a massive number of regex and non regex search options. Though usually i simply use Ctrl-Z; grep; fg, which is less efficient but fits my mental model better. But ctrl-h a <regex> has ~ 34 commands on my machine. Including things like dired-do-isearch-regexp > Multicursors at each line for a selection No idea what this means sadly! > Auto-update of views when file underneath changes (editor should ask what to do in case of edits) I doubt any editor handles this stuff as well as emacs and is invoked in my environments daily. Apart from multicursor stuff (that i do not see the point of for my workflow) everything you mention is a very very old basic emacs feature.
      - m_mueller 12y ago

fyolnish 12y ago

That's iTerm

3rd3 12y ago
http://i.imgur.com/Maj7m7L.png http://i.imgur.com/Maj7m7L.png

unicornporn 12y ago

In many (most?) OS X applications you can right click the toolbar and chose "Use Small Size". Perhaps so in this app too...