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Embedding a Web Browser in Emacs

52 points by fogus 17y ago

dryicerx 17y ago
Excellent, now I never have to leave emacs ever again
silentbicycle 17y ago
emacs-w3m is also quite good, provided you're on Unix. (http://emacs-w3m.namazu.org/ http://emacs-w3m.namazu.org/) Edit: It's a text-mode web browser.
- fogus 17y ago
  It is good, but the OP talks about embedding a graphical web browser not a text-based one.
- altxwally 17y ago
  Funny I thought you meant Emacs is a _text-mode_ web browser, thus a web browser being a _read-mode_ Emacs.
habitue 17y ago
This was actually the first application I thought of when I first heard about uzbl. I'm wasn't knowledgeable enough with elisp etc to implement it myself, but I'll definitely be following this project closely.
ptomato 17y ago
Not in emacs as such, though very similar as far as interface, keybindings, etc. is Conkeror (http://conkeror.org/ http://conkeror.org/). Still missing some needed features, notably screen-splitting, but overall quite usable.
ajb 17y ago
Heh. This is the exact inverse of something I have been thinking about - an elisp bytecode interpreter in javascript. IE, run emacs in your browser; although it would take a lot more than the bytecode interpreter to get that far - one would have to reimplement enough of the C portion of emacs in javascript to get it working.
- aaronblohowiak 17y ago
  ever use conkeror?
  - ajb 17y ago
    No. I'll check it out, thanks.
IsaacSchlueter 17y ago
Every application attempts to expand until it can browse web pages. Those programs which cannot so expand are replaced by ones which can. — http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/Z/Zawinskis-Law.html http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/Z/Zawinskis-Law.html
- deleted 17y ago
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christopherdone 17y ago
I've wanted and want this feature so hard it's unreal. It's also based on Webkit which is amazing because it is the most ACID-compliant browser last I checked, supports JavaScript, Flash, all the usual horrible-but-necessary-for-getting-most-sites-to-work bobbins. All I want in my life is to be able to control Webkit with my keyboard inside Emacs buffers. I think the only logical step is to start work on this project.
almost 17y ago
Absolutely awesome. Waiting for the patched Emacs to download now (the ability to embedd arbitary x windows in Emacs is in itself pretty damn cool) and playing with Uzbl, it's damn cool. Right now the only two apps I use most days are Emacs and Firefox, maybe it's time for Firefox to give in :p
altxwally 17y ago
Absolutely fantastic.
keyist 17y ago
Heh, from stevey's http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2008/04/xemacs-is-dead-long-live-xemacs.html http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2008/04/xemacs-is-dead-long-... : "If Emacs can't find a way to evolve into (or merge with) Firefox, then Firefox or some other extensible browser is going to eclipse Emacs. It's just a matter of time. This wouldn't be a bad thing, per se, but there's a good chance it would be done poorly, take forever, and wind up being less satisfying than if Emacs were to sprout browser-like facilities." Round one to Emacs, then.
- mcav 17y ago
  Reminds me of Bespin...
roamzero 17y ago
Is uzbl windows-friendly or is it unix only? There are people that use Emacs outside of a unix/linux environment you know :p I wonder if something like this would be possible with Firefox.
- Dobbs 17y ago
  The last I heard is that Uzbl is currently unix-only. It is very possible that it will eventually become portable, or at the very least work under cygwin.
cesare 17y ago
rms wouldn't approve (http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.os.openbsd.misc/134252/focus=134979 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.os.openbsd.misc/134252/focus=1...). ;-)
- utku_karatas2 17y ago
  lol, intrigued me about his daily usage and found (http://www.stallman.org/stallman-computing.html http://www.stallman.org/stallman-computing.html)

52 points by fogus 17y ago

Excellent, now I never have to leave emacs ever again

emacs-w3m is also quite good, provided you're on Unix. (http://emacs-w3m.namazu.org/ http://emacs-w3m.namazu.org/) Edit: It's a text-mode web browser.

fogus 17y ago
It is good, but the OP talks about embedding a graphical web browser not a text-based one.
altxwally 17y ago
Funny I thought you meant Emacs is a _text-mode_ web browser, thus a web browser being a _read-mode_ Emacs.

habitue 17y ago

This was actually the first application I thought of when I first heard about uzbl. I'm wasn't knowledgeable enough with elisp etc to implement it myself, but I'll definitely be following this project closely.

ptomato 17y ago

Not in emacs as such, though very similar as far as interface, keybindings, etc. is Conkeror (http://conkeror.org/ http://conkeror.org/). Still missing some needed features, notably screen-splitting, but overall quite usable.

ajb 17y ago

Heh. This is the exact inverse of something I have been thinking about - an elisp bytecode interpreter in javascript. IE, run emacs in your browser; although it would take a lot more than the bytecode interpreter to get that far - one would have to reimplement enough of the C portion of emacs in javascript to get it working.

aaronblohowiak 17y ago
ever use conkeror?
- ajb 17y ago
  No. I'll check it out, thanks.

IsaacSchlueter 17y ago

Every application attempts to expand until it can browse web pages. Those programs which cannot so expand are replaced by ones which can. — http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/Z/Zawinskis-Law.html http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/Z/Zawinskis-Law.html

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christopherdone 17y ago

I've wanted and want this feature so hard it's unreal. It's also based on Webkit which is amazing because it is the most ACID-compliant browser last I checked, supports JavaScript, Flash, all the usual horrible-but-necessary-for-getting-most-sites-to-work bobbins. All I want in my life is to be able to control Webkit with my keyboard inside Emacs buffers. I think the only logical step is to start work on this project.

almost 17y ago

Absolutely awesome. Waiting for the patched Emacs to download now (the ability to embedd arbitary x windows in Emacs is in itself pretty damn cool) and playing with Uzbl, it's damn cool. Right now the only two apps I use most days are Emacs and Firefox, maybe it's time for Firefox to give in :p

altxwally 17y ago

Absolutely fantastic.

keyist 17y ago

Heh, from stevey's http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2008/04/xemacs-is-dead-long-live-xemacs.html http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2008/04/xemacs-is-dead-long-... : "If Emacs can't find a way to evolve into (or merge with) Firefox, then Firefox or some other extensible browser is going to eclipse Emacs. It's just a matter of time. This wouldn't be a bad thing, per se, but there's a good chance it would be done poorly, take forever, and wind up being less satisfying than if Emacs were to sprout browser-like facilities." Round one to Emacs, then.

mcav 17y ago
Reminds me of Bespin...

roamzero 17y ago

Is uzbl windows-friendly or is it unix only? There are people that use Emacs outside of a unix/linux environment you know :p I wonder if something like this would be possible with Firefox.

Dobbs 17y ago
The last I heard is that Uzbl is currently unix-only. It is very possible that it will eventually become portable, or at the very least work under cygwin.

cesare 17y ago

rms wouldn't approve (http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.os.openbsd.misc/134252/focus=134979 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.os.openbsd.misc/134252/focus=1...). ;-)

utku_karatas2 17y ago
lol, intrigued me about his daily usage and found (http://www.stallman.org/stallman-computing.html http://www.stallman.org/stallman-computing.html)