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You missed the part about deployment, though. Most users aren't going to install Python (or whatever) for you, and that complicates things.

kiba 17y ago
You can make a window executable with py2exe. http://py2exe.org http://py2exe.org Really, everything is going to be pain on window in comparsion to Linux. Since linux was orginally made for programmers by programmers, life is going to be a piece of cake.
- silentbicycle 17y ago
  Ah, yes, sunshine and lollipops. Like configuring sendmail. :) I use (and really like) OpenBSD, actually, but the point that the article is trying to make is that while open-source users usually tolerate a fair amount of configuration, spotty documentation, etc., those problems can sit ignored in plain view, and people trying out open source stuff may get the first impression that it's incredibly rickety. (And in some cases, they're probably right.) Tedious detail-work such as setting up a smooth installer is very important, particularly for people who aren't themselves programmers.
  - kiba 17y ago
    I am not sure what is your point. The fact that tedious work is left around is in fact due to the lack of incentives for open source developers, not any instristic structure of open source itself. Lot of them are non-profit, so of course they don't even try that hard. What do you expect, hard core ass kicking software? Sometime, you will find hard core ass kicking software. I still remember fanastic open source games like battle for wesnoth that are easy to install on window, and even more so on linux with pacman or apt-get. It look like it can compete with any reasonable indie game.
    - silentbicycle 17y ago
      > I am not sure what is your point. The fact that tedious work is left around is in fact due to the lack of incentives for open source developers, not any instristic structure of open source itself. Agreed, and this is "Why Users Dumped Your Open Source App for Proprietary Software".
omouse 17y ago
That's not a problem, you just bundle it together. Java applications and PC games have done that for years. The only tricky part is that developers constantly complain about downloading some new programming language just to run a program. Guys...it's the year 2009. You can buy a terabyte hard-drive for a few hundred bucks and your 'net connection isn't that slow anymore.
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kiba 17y ago

You can make a window executable with py2exe. http://py2exe.org http://py2exe.org Really, everything is going to be pain on window in comparsion to Linux. Since linux was orginally made for programmers by programmers, life is going to be a piece of cake.

silentbicycle 17y ago
Ah, yes, sunshine and lollipops. Like configuring sendmail. :) I use (and really like) OpenBSD, actually, but the point that the article is trying to make is that while open-source users usually tolerate a fair amount of configuration, spotty documentation, etc., those problems can sit ignored in plain view, and people trying out open source stuff may get the first impression that it's incredibly rickety. (And in some cases, they're probably right.) Tedious detail-work such as setting up a smooth installer is very important, particularly for people who aren't themselves programmers.
- kiba 17y ago
  I am not sure what is your point. The fact that tedious work is left around is in fact due to the lack of incentives for open source developers, not any instristic structure of open source itself. Lot of them are non-profit, so of course they don't even try that hard. What do you expect, hard core ass kicking software? Sometime, you will find hard core ass kicking software. I still remember fanastic open source games like battle for wesnoth that are easy to install on window, and even more so on linux with pacman or apt-get. It look like it can compete with any reasonable indie game.
  - silentbicycle 17y ago
    > I am not sure what is your point. The fact that tedious work is left around is in fact due to the lack of incentives for open source developers, not any instristic structure of open source itself. Agreed, and this is "Why Users Dumped Your Open Source App for Proprietary Software".

omouse 17y ago

That's not a problem, you just bundle it together. Java applications and PC games have done that for years. The only tricky part is that developers constantly complain about downloading some new programming language just to run a program. Guys...it's the year 2009. You can buy a terabyte hard-drive for a few hundred bucks and your 'net connection isn't that slow anymore.

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