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"we hear more from the Ruby side than any other about how great their language is" Um, that crown unquestionably goes to a big chunk of the python community ri

by carbon8 17y ago

"we hear more from the Ruby side than any other about how great their language is" Um, that crown unquestionably goes to a big chunk of the python community right now. Reddit alone provides a steady stream of both extreme fawning over python and vitriol targeted at ruby, and your comment and its upvotes demonstrate that it's present here, as well. It's also quite a colossal double standard to complain about Ruby-specific hosts considering the existence of GAE, all the django-targeting hosting companies http://www.google.com/search?q=django+hosting http://www.google.com/search?q=django+hosting and all the companies providing language-specific services for PHP, Java and every other mainstream language.

yesimahuman 17y ago
I'm not complaining about the hosts, I'm complaining about the extreme focus we put on the language being used rather than the products being made.
- carbon8 17y ago
  "I'm complaining about the extreme focus we put on the language being used rather than the products being made." What "extreme focus on the language"? Simply mentioning "Ruby" in the context of a Ruby-only hosting company's decisions does not constitute "extreme focus" any more than mentioning "Python" or, more recently, "Java" when discussing the Google App Engine. It's completely uncontroversial to anyone who doesn't have an axe to grind. Also, the services provided by the companies (or as you put it, "the products being made") are Ruby and Git hosting, with EY also maintaining several Ruby implementations. I'm not sure how you could say anything about EY's "products being made" without mentioning Ruby.
  - yesimahuman 17y ago
    Perhaps in the context of what services EY are providing it isn't controversial, since they clearly just provide Ruby hosting. In general though I feel like lately everyone is so dead set on the langs/tools they are using that we tend to focus on the languages rather than the general CS topics behind all of them. This was just a good time to bring up my annoyance I guess.

by carbon8 17y ago

yesimahuman 17y ago

I'm not complaining about the hosts, I'm complaining about the extreme focus we put on the language being used rather than the products being made.

carbon8 17y ago
"I'm complaining about the extreme focus we put on the language being used rather than the products being made." What "extreme focus on the language"? Simply mentioning "Ruby" in the context of a Ruby-only hosting company's decisions does not constitute "extreme focus" any more than mentioning "Python" or, more recently, "Java" when discussing the Google App Engine. It's completely uncontroversial to anyone who doesn't have an axe to grind. Also, the services provided by the companies (or as you put it, "the products being made") are Ruby and Git hosting, with EY also maintaining several Ruby implementations. I'm not sure how you could say anything about EY's "products being made" without mentioning Ruby.
- yesimahuman 17y ago
  Perhaps in the context of what services EY are providing it isn't controversial, since they clearly just provide Ruby hosting. In general though I feel like lately everyone is so dead set on the langs/tools they are using that we tend to focus on the languages rather than the general CS topics behind all of them. This was just a good time to bring up my annoyance I guess.