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Ive already noticed Microsoft people get fewer job offers compared to Java (enterprise not Android) people. And they have lower salary. The only thing keeping

by antocv 12y ago

Ive already noticed Microsoft people get fewer job offers compared to Java (enterprise not Android) people. And they have lower salary. The only thing keeping Microsoft afloat right now is the contracts with the state or municipalities.

luuio 12y ago
you serious?
- icantthinkofone 12y ago
  It's true. While many think they need to run to Microsoft to get a job, nix applicants have become more scarce and command a higher salary. Now that the world is moving to mobile, where Windows is almost non-existant for devices and far behind world-wide server usage, nix/BSD people will be in more demand.
- antocv 12y ago
  Yeah, thats just my observation. Big deal, Apple fanboys / Objective-C people earn the most and are in highest demand still. Microsoft is downhill because anything with clouds or servers is none of their business.
  - yulaow 12y ago
    In reality (microsoft) Azure is becoming one of the most profitable "division" of microsoft itself, increasing revenues quarter over quarter (and also, they announced around 20% of their vms are running linux)
  - tatalegma 12y ago
    You know that you can run an entirely non-.NET stack in Azure? 100% linux servers, PHP, apamongoDB, postgresSQL, mySQL, etc. You can even leverage a lot of the PaaS offerings with PHP/node.js. I don't know that anyone should take what you have to say on this matter seriously.
dmcclurg 12y ago
This couldn't be further from the truth.
joeclark77 12y ago
If that's true, I suspect it's because Java is an awful, unsexy language that few programmers are interested in learning. You have your .NET people, and you have people interested in exciting alternative languages like Ruby, Java, Erlang, Haskell, Go, etc. And then, for some reason, there are all these companies using Java (perhaps founded in the late nineties?) who need to keep things moving. (Also possible: maybe I'm wrong and Java is just a delight to program.) I'd be curious to hear about the job offer and salary comparison between .NET and "various fashionable languages" apart from Java.

by antocv 12y ago

luuio 12y ago

you serious?

icantthinkofone 12y ago
It's true. While many think they need to run to Microsoft to get a job, nix applicants have become more scarce and command a higher salary. Now that the world is moving to mobile, where Windows is almost non-existant for devices and far behind world-wide server usage, nix/BSD people will be in more demand.
antocv 12y ago
Yeah, thats just my observation. Big deal, Apple fanboys / Objective-C people earn the most and are in highest demand still. Microsoft is downhill because anything with clouds or servers is none of their business.
- yulaow 12y ago
  In reality (microsoft) Azure is becoming one of the most profitable "division" of microsoft itself, increasing revenues quarter over quarter (and also, they announced around 20% of their vms are running linux)
- tatalegma 12y ago
  You know that you can run an entirely non-.NET stack in Azure? 100% linux servers, PHP, apamongoDB, postgresSQL, mySQL, etc. You can even leverage a lot of the PaaS offerings with PHP/node.js. I don't know that anyone should take what you have to say on this matter seriously.

dmcclurg 12y ago

This couldn't be further from the truth.

joeclark77 12y ago

If that's true, I suspect it's because Java is an awful, unsexy language that few programmers are interested in learning. You have your .NET people, and you have people interested in exciting alternative languages like Ruby, Java, Erlang, Haskell, Go, etc. And then, for some reason, there are all these companies using Java (perhaps founded in the late nineties?) who need to keep things moving. (Also possible: maybe I'm wrong and Java is just a delight to program.) I'd be curious to hear about the job offer and salary comparison between .NET and "various fashionable languages" apart from Java.