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What I don't understand - I'm still happily using Pirate Bay along with bunch of other torrent sites (but mostly through torrentz.net search engine). So what's

by zerr 12y ago

What I don't understand - I'm still happily using Pirate Bay along with bunch of other torrent sites (but mostly through torrentz.net search engine). So what's the story behind it? Why PB still operates if it is proven that it is illegal?

lnanek2 12y ago
I assume they just moved their servers to another country.
omegaham 12y ago
It's one thing to say that it's illegal. It's another thing entirely to shut it down. So, the Pirate Bay's servers are in countries that either don't care to enforce or aren't able to enforce copyright law.
- toyg 12y ago
  Not just that. I'm pretty sure i read somewhere that they employ a very decentralized and redundant architecture, where almost nobody is in a position to compromise the entire setup. They had to evolve this way after it became clear that Swedish authorities were after them. From what I understand, even their own admins often don't know where their servers are anymore. This resistance to physical attacks is why countries eventually started blocking it at the consumer end, through ISP-enforced bans. It's a shame they can't talk more openly about it, I'm sure they could teach some valuable lessons in reliability.
  - vezzy-fnord 12y ago
    That and it's worth noting that TPB doesn't actually host any pirated content. It only provides magnet links.
belorn 12y ago
Many reasons: The site today is just text with a simplistic search engine attached. This make relocating them very simple, duplication very simple, and running it very simple. Because the site is that simplistic, removing it gets that much harder. Its like trying to remove illegal numbers from the internet, and expecting that one large raid on the number central will do it. What lobbyist are trying to do is takeing the site down through DNS by getting TLD's responsible for the internet at large. This is a bad idea(tm), and is being pushed against by the TLD's. It would also not work.
undershirt 12y ago
PB has been hosted by an ISP belonging to the Pirate Party of Sweden since 2010. Shutting it down would be seen as political censorship.
- haakon 12y ago
  The Swedish Pirate Party stopped hosting The Pirate Bay in early 2013: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130226/09515722117/swedish-pirate-party-stops-hosting-pirate-bay-intends-to-sue-anti-piracy-organization-unlawful-coercion.shtml https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130226/09515722117/swedi...

by zerr 12y ago

lnanek2 12y ago

I assume they just moved their servers to another country.

omegaham 12y ago

It's one thing to say that it's illegal. It's another thing entirely to shut it down. So, the Pirate Bay's servers are in countries that either don't care to enforce or aren't able to enforce copyright law.

toyg 12y ago
Not just that. I'm pretty sure i read somewhere that they employ a very decentralized and redundant architecture, where almost nobody is in a position to compromise the entire setup. They had to evolve this way after it became clear that Swedish authorities were after them. From what I understand, even their own admins often don't know where their servers are anymore. This resistance to physical attacks is why countries eventually started blocking it at the consumer end, through ISP-enforced bans. It's a shame they can't talk more openly about it, I'm sure they could teach some valuable lessons in reliability.
- vezzy-fnord 12y ago
  That and it's worth noting that TPB doesn't actually host any pirated content. It only provides magnet links.

belorn 12y ago

Many reasons: The site today is just text with a simplistic search engine attached. This make relocating them very simple, duplication very simple, and running it very simple. Because the site is that simplistic, removing it gets that much harder. Its like trying to remove illegal numbers from the internet, and expecting that one large raid on the number central will do it. What lobbyist are trying to do is takeing the site down through DNS by getting TLD's responsible for the internet at large. This is a bad idea(tm), and is being pushed against by the TLD's. It would also not work.

undershirt 12y ago

PB has been hosted by an ISP belonging to the Pirate Party of Sweden since 2010. Shutting it down would be seen as political censorship.

haakon 12y ago
The Swedish Pirate Party stopped hosting The Pirate Bay in early 2013: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130226/09515722117/swedish-pirate-party-stops-hosting-pirate-bay-intends-to-sue-anti-piracy-organization-unlawful-coercion.shtml https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130226/09515722117/swedi...