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This is really cool. And I hate to be that guy, especially so early. But wouldn't it be easier on both networking and cpu to convert it to a webm?

kmizzle 12y ago
Cant email a webm
- Paul_S 12y ago
  How is attaching a gif any different than attaching a webm?
  - ZenoArrow 12y ago
    Some email clients support animated gifs embedded in the main email content. None that I currently use, but I do remember it as a feature in Outlook 2003.
    - tburns 12y ago
      Mail.app on OS X also does this
  - justdropapp 12y ago
    gifs will survive for ever!
RoryGlyphic 12y ago
Absolutely! We actually made a webm version (that's the smallest size to date and the fastest to create), but just wanted to perfect GIF creation and get some captions on the system early before introducing webm. Maybe we should reverse that?
- nmjohn 12y ago
  It depends, who is your actual target audience? If it's a general anyone and everyone, gif is the way to go. If it's a more technical audience, who probably know what webm already is, then webm may make more sense And from a more marketing side of things If you went gif first and five months down the line announcing support for webm makes you look innovative and will probably get you posted to a handful of subreddits and the front page of hn. If you went webm first and five months down the line announce gif support, you probably won't be able to achieve the same results.
  - RoryGlyphic 12y ago
    Definitely. At first we wanted to target general audience and then transition into more technical. It's a little conflicting because I love HN and reddit, so my* general preferences differ from what I think is actually the best transition :3
- jdiez17 12y ago
  If you want to convert GIFs to WebM/MP4/etc you might want to check out the MediaCrush[1] code. Or just use https://mediacru.sh https://mediacru.sh, which is and always will be free. [1]: https://github.com/mediacrush/mediacrush https://github.com/mediacrush/mediacrush
  - RoryGlyphic 12y ago
    Thank you! Are you behind midacru.sh?
    - jdiez17 12y ago
      I am indeed. Happy to answer your questions.
      - RoryGlyphic 12y ago
        Absolutely! May be able to work together. What's the best way to reach each other?
        Sir_Cmpwn 12y ago
        Another mediacrush guy here - jdiez went to sleep. Us devs hang out in #mediacrush on irc.freenode.net and we also read emails sent to {jdiez,drew}@mediacru.sh
  - cbhl 12y ago
    I'd love to know your thoughts on using WebP (image format that supports animation) versus WebM (video format) for GIFs. Do you think it's worthwhile? If not, why?
    - jdiez17 12y ago
      We haven't looked much into WebP as an animation container. And since it's only supported by Chrome (and will likely remain that way) we are not currently considering it. WebM and MP4 both have pretty good codecs for video; definitely a lot better than GIFs, that's for sure.
- TallboyOne 12y ago
  I definitely prefer gifs, so please dont remove that option.
  - RoryGlyphic 12y ago
    never!!!
tarr11 12y ago
webm doesn't work on Safari or IE http://caniuse.com/webm http://caniuse.com/webm
- fred_durst 12y ago
  I just call those two SafarIE. Safari is shaping up to be the new IE so we might as well just say them in one phrase instead of always specifying them both.

kmizzle 12y ago

Cant email a webm

Paul_S 12y ago
How is attaching a gif any different than attaching a webm?
- ZenoArrow 12y ago
  Some email clients support animated gifs embedded in the main email content. None that I currently use, but I do remember it as a feature in Outlook 2003.
  - tburns 12y ago
    Mail.app on OS X also does this
- justdropapp 12y ago
  gifs will survive for ever!

RoryGlyphic 12y ago

Absolutely! We actually made a webm version (that's the smallest size to date and the fastest to create), but just wanted to perfect GIF creation and get some captions on the system early before introducing webm. Maybe we should reverse that?

nmjohn 12y ago
It depends, who is your actual target audience? If it's a general anyone and everyone, gif is the way to go. If it's a more technical audience, who probably know what webm already is, then webm may make more sense And from a more marketing side of things If you went gif first and five months down the line announcing support for webm makes you look innovative and will probably get you posted to a handful of subreddits and the front page of hn. If you went webm first and five months down the line announce gif support, you probably won't be able to achieve the same results.
- RoryGlyphic 12y ago
  Definitely. At first we wanted to target general audience and then transition into more technical. It's a little conflicting because I love HN and reddit, so my* general preferences differ from what I think is actually the best transition :3
jdiez17 12y ago
If you want to convert GIFs to WebM/MP4/etc you might want to check out the MediaCrush[1] code. Or just use https://mediacru.sh https://mediacru.sh, which is and always will be free. [1]: https://github.com/mediacrush/mediacrush https://github.com/mediacrush/mediacrush
- RoryGlyphic 12y ago
  Thank you! Are you behind midacru.sh?
  - jdiez17 12y ago
    I am indeed. Happy to answer your questions.
    - RoryGlyphic 12y ago
      Absolutely! May be able to work together. What's the best way to reach each other?
      - Sir_Cmpwn 12y ago
        Another mediacrush guy here - jdiez went to sleep. Us devs hang out in #mediacrush on irc.freenode.net and we also read emails sent to {jdiez,drew}@mediacru.sh
- cbhl 12y ago
  I'd love to know your thoughts on using WebP (image format that supports animation) versus WebM (video format) for GIFs. Do you think it's worthwhile? If not, why?
  - jdiez17 12y ago
    We haven't looked much into WebP as an animation container. And since it's only supported by Chrome (and will likely remain that way) we are not currently considering it. WebM and MP4 both have pretty good codecs for video; definitely a lot better than GIFs, that's for sure.
TallboyOne 12y ago
I definitely prefer gifs, so please dont remove that option.
- RoryGlyphic 12y ago
  never!!!

tarr11 12y ago

webm doesn't work on Safari or IE http://caniuse.com/webm http://caniuse.com/webm

fred_durst 12y ago
I just call those two SafarIE. Safari is shaping up to be the new IE so we might as well just say them in one phrase instead of always specifying them both.