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NSA Observer

colinramsay 12y ago
http://cryptome.org/ http://cryptome.org/ is a reliable resource is it? Because it looks like a conspiracy website.
- matthewbauer 12y ago
  It looks like it has a similar goal to Wikileaks - publish classified documents.
- dreamdu5t 12y ago
  Cryptome was the first major leaks / "open secrets" website. Their mission is simple: Publish documents that governments try and keep secret.
- BgSpnnrs 12y ago
  Without personal interaction and not to cast aspersions on a person I've not met, John Young has a reputation of being a bit of a firebrand, iconoclast and bombastic figure - however cryptome has operated for many years with a simple policy of publish docs deemed inappropriate for public view... They intentionally make no judgement on the things they publish. It is a note of importance however, to realise cryptome - in the case of most of these source documents - are serving as a host rather than linking to the original (guardian/WAPO/firstlook/der speigel etc.) websites, probably as much for posterity as for convenience. I see little reason to question the veracity of the info provided on this site.
- anonbanker 12y ago
  There is that word again: Conspiracy. I do not think it means what you think it means.
lern_too_spel 12y ago
This site managed to get the description of Prism completely wrong more than a year after we found out what it is. I'd guess the rest of it is just as poorly researched.
- BgSpnnrs 12y ago
  Could you elaborate? I'd like to know the proper facts if this site is not providing them!
  - csandreasen 12y ago
    I think he's referring to the opening line: "PRISM is a clandestine mass electronic surveillance data mining program" Electrospaces describes it as follows: "It shows that PRISM is not about bulk or mass surveillance, but for collecting communications of specifically identified targets." [1] [1] http://electrospaces.blogspot.fr/2014/04/what-is-known-about-nsas-prism-program.html http://electrospaces.blogspot.fr/2014/04/what-is-known-about...
    - BgSpnnrs 12y ago
      Does this not depend on the NSA's rather dubious interpretation of 'collection' to mean 'collected but not actually analyzed by human eyes yet'?
      - csandreasen 12y ago
        That quote is from one the sites listed on nsa-observer.net's front page with the description "provide[s] documents and in-depth analysis on the NSA." Based on the author's Twitter feed, I'm assuming he's based in the Netherlands.
rrggrr 12y ago
The user interface is great. What bootstrap if any was used here?
hackuser 12y ago
I tried loading the site with NoScript enabled: ---- Sorry, but this site relays entirely on javascript. For your information, it doesn't include any tracker or any script linking to another domain. ---- Being a website concerned with NSA exploits, they are missing an important point.

http://cryptome.org/ http://cryptome.org/ is a reliable resource is it? Because it looks like a conspiracy website.

matthewbauer 12y ago
It looks like it has a similar goal to Wikileaks - publish classified documents.
dreamdu5t 12y ago
Cryptome was the first major leaks / "open secrets" website. Their mission is simple: Publish documents that governments try and keep secret.
BgSpnnrs 12y ago
Without personal interaction and not to cast aspersions on a person I've not met, John Young has a reputation of being a bit of a firebrand, iconoclast and bombastic figure - however cryptome has operated for many years with a simple policy of publish docs deemed inappropriate for public view... They intentionally make no judgement on the things they publish. It is a note of importance however, to realise cryptome - in the case of most of these source documents - are serving as a host rather than linking to the original (guardian/WAPO/firstlook/der speigel etc.) websites, probably as much for posterity as for convenience. I see little reason to question the veracity of the info provided on this site.
anonbanker 12y ago
There is that word again: Conspiracy. I do not think it means what you think it means.

This site managed to get the description of Prism completely wrong more than a year after we found out what it is. I'd guess the rest of it is just as poorly researched.

BgSpnnrs 12y ago
Could you elaborate? I'd like to know the proper facts if this site is not providing them!
- csandreasen 12y ago
  I think he's referring to the opening line: "PRISM is a clandestine mass electronic surveillance data mining program" Electrospaces describes it as follows: "It shows that PRISM is not about bulk or mass surveillance, but for collecting communications of specifically identified targets." [1] [1] http://electrospaces.blogspot.fr/2014/04/what-is-known-about-nsas-prism-program.html http://electrospaces.blogspot.fr/2014/04/what-is-known-about...
  - BgSpnnrs 12y ago
    Does this not depend on the NSA's rather dubious interpretation of 'collection' to mean 'collected but not actually analyzed by human eyes yet'?
    - csandreasen 12y ago
      That quote is from one the sites listed on nsa-observer.net's front page with the description "provide[s] documents and in-depth analysis on the NSA." Based on the author's Twitter feed, I'm assuming he's based in the Netherlands.

rrggrr 12y ago

The user interface is great. What bootstrap if any was used here?

hackuser 12y ago

I tried loading the site with NoScript enabled: ---- Sorry, but this site relays entirely on javascript. For your information, it doesn't include any tracker or any script linking to another domain. ---- Being a website concerned with NSA exploits, they are missing an important point.