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If Google really wanted to show that they are for openness and privacy, they would have moved Chrome to a not-for-profit foundation instead of owning it themsel

If Google really wanted to show that they are for openness and privacy, they would have moved Chrome to a not-for-profit foundation instead of owning it themselves.

stephenr 12y ago
that would defeat the purpose of them creating Chrome in the first place - to have access to product (by which I mean people using the browser) activities. What other advertising company has ever had as many fingers in as many pies? It’s entirely possible for people in parts of the USA be getting a large percentage of their web content (search, news, video, social etc) from a Google web property, using a device controlled by Google, using an internet connection controlled by Google. Just to remind you - Google is an Ad company. People talk about the Apple “reality distorion field” because people willingly buy in to the Apple ecosystem, but Apple have nothing on the religion like status Google has reached with some people.
- myrryr 12y ago
  They are a Tech company, they make most of their money from ad's for now, but I expect in the future, it will be from AI and robotics, since they are investing incredible amounts in those areas.
  - romerro 12y ago
    Nope, that's just to deceive you. They still just want/need your attention and more of it every year on more surfaces. Online Media is way too profitable to "pivot" away from it :)
    - myrryr 12y ago
      They don't need to pivot, they just need the rest of the business to grow bigger then the advertising arm. Which it will, since robotics and AI have the potential to be much much bigger. Of course, then people will worry that Google will create the technological singularity.
    - stephenr 12y ago
      Can't reply lower. The idea that Google will somehow abandon it's current advertising/data mining business model is ridiculous. In 2013 Google's non-advertising revenue was less than 9% of their total revenue. For average people, the $0 price tag is one of the big appeals about Google's various services - of course those things are really just ways to acquire product (i.e. people) data/eyeballs. If you look at a lot of their online services outside of straight search, they do not have the best experience, they are simply free and "good enough" to squeeze out or marginalise paid services.
      - myrryr 12y ago
        I didn't say they were going to abandon it, I said I believed that the other parts of their business would grow bigger then the advertising part. Yes, it is only around 9% now, but it used to be 0% and it is growing fast.
        stephenr 12y ago
        But how much of that growth is true growth and how much is about sudden new income streams because of purchases. e.g. they buy a company like Nest, which has a commercial product. Suddenly they have a lot of extra non-ad based revenue, giving the appearance of growth.

If Google really wanted to show that they are for openness and privacy, they would have moved Chrome to a not-for-profit foundation instead of owning it themselves.

stephenr 12y ago

that would defeat the purpose of them creating Chrome in the first place - to have access to product (by which I mean people using the browser) activities. What other advertising company has ever had as many fingers in as many pies? It’s entirely possible for people in parts of the USA be getting a large percentage of their web content (search, news, video, social etc) from a Google web property, using a device controlled by Google, using an internet connection controlled by Google. Just to remind you - Google is an Ad company. People talk about the Apple “reality distorion field” because people willingly buy in to the Apple ecosystem, but Apple have nothing on the religion like status Google has reached with some people.

myrryr 12y ago
They are a Tech company, they make most of their money from ad's for now, but I expect in the future, it will be from AI and robotics, since they are investing incredible amounts in those areas.
- romerro 12y ago
  Nope, that's just to deceive you. They still just want/need your attention and more of it every year on more surfaces. Online Media is way too profitable to "pivot" away from it :)
  - myrryr 12y ago
    They don't need to pivot, they just need the rest of the business to grow bigger then the advertising arm. Which it will, since robotics and AI have the potential to be much much bigger. Of course, then people will worry that Google will create the technological singularity.
  - stephenr 12y ago
    Can't reply lower. The idea that Google will somehow abandon it's current advertising/data mining business model is ridiculous. In 2013 Google's non-advertising revenue was less than 9% of their total revenue. For average people, the $0 price tag is one of the big appeals about Google's various services - of course those things are really just ways to acquire product (i.e. people) data/eyeballs. If you look at a lot of their online services outside of straight search, they do not have the best experience, they are simply free and "good enough" to squeeze out or marginalise paid services.
    - myrryr 12y ago
      I didn't say they were going to abandon it, I said I believed that the other parts of their business would grow bigger then the advertising part. Yes, it is only around 9% now, but it used to be 0% and it is growing fast.
      - stephenr 12y ago
        But how much of that growth is true growth and how much is about sudden new income streams because of purchases. e.g. they buy a company like Nest, which has a commercial product. Suddenly they have a lot of extra non-ad based revenue, giving the appearance of growth.