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Why is it that libertarians never consider it government wealth redistribution when one has government employees with guns come around and point them at people

Why is it that libertarians never consider it government wealth redistribution when one has government employees with guns come around and point them at people on a piece of earth that a piece of paper at a government office says one have an exclusive right to? Especially when that piece of earth is on, say, the other side of the country from the person the piece of paper says owns it. That's a form of government wealth redistribution that most libertarians seem to be a fan of.

zo1 12y ago
I think you need to go look up the definition of Libertarianism and Anarcho-capitalism. Hint: It's not the definition you find on MSNBC/Fox/CNN/whatever.
- Iftheshoefits 12y ago
  I think you're trying too hard, and 'no true scotsman' fallacies don't really help your "argument".
  - zo1 12y ago
    >"'no true scotsman' fallacies don't really help your "argument"." I'm afraid you're going to have to elaborate on this one. Perhaps if you elucidated your point, I'd be able to rebut it.
    - Iftheshoefits 12y ago
      You're claiming the libertarians the person you replied to aren't (real) libertarians by implication that the group he was referring to aren't (real) libertarians. It's like a christian claiming a lutheran doesn't practice christianity, i.e., it's a "no true scotsman" fallacy.
- akgerber 12y ago
  Pretty much every libertarian I know of believes the state should enforce property law. In anarcho-capitalism, people apparently have property rights to land that "he occupies and puts to use by means of his body, provided only that no one else has already occupied or used the same places and goods before him", per Wikipedia. Property rights defined on this basis (which is to say, none, as there is no such land in the real world) would somehow be enforced by private courts, maybe with use of force by everybody when everyone agrees with each other, somehow? What.

zo1 12y ago

I think you need to go look up the definition of Libertarianism and Anarcho-capitalism. Hint: It's not the definition you find on MSNBC/Fox/CNN/whatever.

Iftheshoefits 12y ago
I think you're trying too hard, and 'no true scotsman' fallacies don't really help your "argument".
- zo1 12y ago
  >"'no true scotsman' fallacies don't really help your "argument"." I'm afraid you're going to have to elaborate on this one. Perhaps if you elucidated your point, I'd be able to rebut it.
  - Iftheshoefits 12y ago
    You're claiming the libertarians the person you replied to aren't (real) libertarians by implication that the group he was referring to aren't (real) libertarians. It's like a christian claiming a lutheran doesn't practice christianity, i.e., it's a "no true scotsman" fallacy.
akgerber 12y ago
Pretty much every libertarian I know of believes the state should enforce property law. In anarcho-capitalism, people apparently have property rights to land that "he occupies and puts to use by means of his body, provided only that no one else has already occupied or used the same places and goods before him", per Wikipedia. Property rights defined on this basis (which is to say, none, as there is no such land in the real world) would somehow be enforced by private courts, maybe with use of force by everybody when everyone agrees with each other, somehow? What.