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As much as I hate to say this, but I almost agree that there will need to be some form of oversight into how water is obtained from natural sources and then dis

As much as I hate to say this, but I almost agree that there will need to be some form of oversight into how water is obtained from natural sources and then distributed. You can see all of the crazy issues going on right now in California due to the current drought. However, I also see water as a basic human right, and should not restrict anyones access to it, but these topics get very murky when we start discussing the needs of the many for sustenance, and the needs of the many for I want my lawn to be green or I want to bottle it and resell it.

JoeAltmaier 12y ago
...or more pertinently, I want to flood the desert to grow rice in the California central valley.
maxerickson 12y ago
There is already extensive oversight. There are places where homeowners don't have the right to the rain that falls on their roof. There are things like the Great Lakes Compact: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Lakes_Compact http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Lakes_Compact There are rules governing what a waste water treatment plant can output (especially around things like phosphorus). On a river, one town's waste water is the next town's source water. New York City owns large tracts of land to help protect its water supply: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_water_supply_system http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_water_supply_syst... http://www.pwconserve.org/issues/watersheds/newyorkcity/ http://www.pwconserve.org/issues/watersheds/newyorkcity/ There are also usually pretty strict laws in force anywhere surface water is used for drinking water (you see watershed signs for that). Of course new and changing interests will require lots of changes to the way the oversight it done, and it anyway isn't exactly perfect.
- smsm42 12y ago
  Here's another funny regulation effect from California: http://www.newser.com/story/191142/couple-could-be-fined-500-if-they-water-lawn-500-if-they-dont.html http://www.newser.com/story/191142/couple-could-be-fined-500... If you don't water you lawn, you're fined. If you do, you're fined. And here's an example of a guy going to jail for having a rainwater pool on their property: http://www.realfarmacy.com/oregon-man-sent-to-jail-for-catching-rain-water-on-his-own-property/ http://www.realfarmacy.com/oregon-man-sent-to-jail-for-catch...
  - bsder 12y ago
    > If you don't water you lawn, you're fined. If you do, you're fined. And a state law trumps a Homeowner's Association (it's normally even written into the contract). The Association is liable for attempting to enforce something that violates state law. > And here's an example of a guy going to jail for having a rainwater pool on their property Um, IIRC, the details of that case are that the dude actually build enormous reservoirs. We're not talking a couple barrels, we're talking something like 3 ponds.
    - mnarayan01 12y ago
      It's the city which is trying to require him to water his lawn, not an HA.

JoeAltmaier 12y ago

...or more pertinently, I want to flood the desert to grow rice in the California central valley.

maxerickson 12y ago

There is already extensive oversight. There are places where homeowners don't have the right to the rain that falls on their roof. There are things like the Great Lakes Compact: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Lakes_Compact http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Lakes_Compact There are rules governing what a waste water treatment plant can output (especially around things like phosphorus). On a river, one town's waste water is the next town's source water. New York City owns large tracts of land to help protect its water supply: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_water_supply_system http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_water_supply_syst... http://www.pwconserve.org/issues/watersheds/newyorkcity/ http://www.pwconserve.org/issues/watersheds/newyorkcity/ There are also usually pretty strict laws in force anywhere surface water is used for drinking water (you see watershed signs for that). Of course new and changing interests will require lots of changes to the way the oversight it done, and it anyway isn't exactly perfect.

smsm42 12y ago
Here's another funny regulation effect from California: http://www.newser.com/story/191142/couple-could-be-fined-500-if-they-water-lawn-500-if-they-dont.html http://www.newser.com/story/191142/couple-could-be-fined-500... If you don't water you lawn, you're fined. If you do, you're fined. And here's an example of a guy going to jail for having a rainwater pool on their property: http://www.realfarmacy.com/oregon-man-sent-to-jail-for-catching-rain-water-on-his-own-property/ http://www.realfarmacy.com/oregon-man-sent-to-jail-for-catch...
- bsder 12y ago
  > If you don't water you lawn, you're fined. If you do, you're fined. And a state law trumps a Homeowner's Association (it's normally even written into the contract). The Association is liable for attempting to enforce something that violates state law. > And here's an example of a guy going to jail for having a rainwater pool on their property Um, IIRC, the details of that case are that the dude actually build enormous reservoirs. We're not talking a couple barrels, we're talking something like 3 ponds.
  - mnarayan01 12y ago
    It's the city which is trying to require him to water his lawn, not an HA.