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"No, it's inflicted by a broken society." No, it's not. The broken society didn't make the woman pregnant and give birth. Also, 'broken' sounds really melodram

by Kenji 12y ago

"No, it's inflicted by a broken society." No, it's not. The broken society didn't make the woman pregnant and give birth. Also, 'broken' sounds really melodramatic. "In a working society, at least a working first-world society, everyone has at least a basic standard of living." Is having and maintaining a Ferrari a basic standard of living? No? Well, that's how expensive kids are, no, they're even more expensive. That is a very ambitious basic standard you're setting here. Obviously, this is going to cost uninvolved people heaps of money just because everyone thinks they are entitled to make as many children as they want regardless of their ability to support them. It's a huge burden on everyone else's back. The pinnacle of selfishness.

_delirium 12y ago
Unlike having a nation full of Ferraris, having a nation where at least a replacement-rate of kids are born is necessary to keep it from aging and eventually dying out. Human reproduction is not a random consumer product, but an integral part of the continuation of human societies. Therefore, society puts in place a social system to ensure that kids can be raised, educated, etc., but does not put in place a system to ensure widespread Ferrari ownership.
PhantomGremlin 12y ago
Thanks for sticking to your guns. I didn't have children until my 40's (admittedly, that's probably kind of too late). Why? Because I wanted to have a stable marital and financial situation in place for them. If you have no husband and no job, you shouldn't be having children just barely out of your teenage years. Children don't happen by "accident". And you're very right, nowadays people feel that they're entitled to a Ferrari just for being alive. Our society sure has changed in recent decades. Bah. Watch me get voted down along with you. I don't care. It needs to be said.
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by Kenji 12y ago

_delirium 12y ago

Unlike having a nation full of Ferraris, having a nation where at least a replacement-rate of kids are born is necessary to keep it from aging and eventually dying out. Human reproduction is not a random consumer product, but an integral part of the continuation of human societies. Therefore, society puts in place a social system to ensure that kids can be raised, educated, etc., but does not put in place a system to ensure widespread Ferrari ownership.

PhantomGremlin 12y ago

Thanks for sticking to your guns. I didn't have children until my 40's (admittedly, that's probably kind of too late). Why? Because I wanted to have a stable marital and financial situation in place for them. If you have no husband and no job, you shouldn't be having children just barely out of your teenage years. Children don't happen by "accident". And you're very right, nowadays people feel that they're entitled to a Ferrari just for being alive. Our society sure has changed in recent decades. Bah. Watch me get voted down along with you. I don't care. It needs to be said.

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