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Like it makes a fucking difference... Your civilian gun rights can't protect you when there's a team of police armed with assault rifles and body armor marching

Like it makes a fucking difference... Your civilian gun rights can't protect you when there's a team of police armed with assault rifles and body armor marching down your street. Are you seriously suggesting civilians take up counter-sniping positions against the police? The fuck is wrong with you? The days of the old west are over, we need laws and regulations not civil war.

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LyndsySimon 12y ago
> Your civilian gun rights can't protect you when there's a team of police armed with assault rifles and body armor marching down your street. Hogwash. I have weapons that are just as capable as those of my local police force, and access to the same types of body armor if I wanted to spend the money for it. > Are you seriously suggesting civilians take up counter-sniping positions against the police? The fuck is wrong with you? In Ferguson? Absolutely not. An instance where it isn't moral to use force doesn't mean that there is no moral instance where responding to force with force is justified. > The days of the old west are over, we need laws and regulations not civil war. The ironic thing about this is that in the Old West, "law and order" was in fact enforced through the will of a sheriff and his posse, at gunpoint. They got to define what "law and order" meant, and in many cattle towns firearms were effectively outlawed as a result. Meanwhile, the actual US Civil War was precipitated and fought by professional militaries subject to civil authority (i.e., law and regulation).
baddox 12y ago
> Like it makes a fucking difference... Your civilian gun rights can't protect you when there's a team of police armed with assault rifles and body armor marching down your street. 20,000 civilians with guns can protect a region against a few hundred police, even with their armored vehicles, tear gas, etc. I think you're underestimating the population difference between civilians and police. > Are you seriously suggesting civilians take up counter-sniping positions against the police? If there are police snipers, then absolutely. > The days of the old west are over, we need laws and regulations not civil war. I'm not calling for the old west, or for civil war, or for a lack of laws. You're the one advocating a greater power disparity between police and civilians.

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LyndsySimon 12y ago

> Your civilian gun rights can't protect you when there's a team of police armed with assault rifles and body armor marching down your street. Hogwash. I have weapons that are just as capable as those of my local police force, and access to the same types of body armor if I wanted to spend the money for it. > Are you seriously suggesting civilians take up counter-sniping positions against the police? The fuck is wrong with you? In Ferguson? Absolutely not. An instance where it isn't moral to use force doesn't mean that there is no moral instance where responding to force with force is justified. > The days of the old west are over, we need laws and regulations not civil war. The ironic thing about this is that in the Old West, "law and order" was in fact enforced through the will of a sheriff and his posse, at gunpoint. They got to define what "law and order" meant, and in many cattle towns firearms were effectively outlawed as a result. Meanwhile, the actual US Civil War was precipitated and fought by professional militaries subject to civil authority (i.e., law and regulation).

baddox 12y ago

> Like it makes a fucking difference... Your civilian gun rights can't protect you when there's a team of police armed with assault rifles and body armor marching down your street. 20,000 civilians with guns can protect a region against a few hundred police, even with their armored vehicles, tear gas, etc. I think you're underestimating the population difference between civilians and police. > Are you seriously suggesting civilians take up counter-sniping positions against the police? If there are police snipers, then absolutely. > The days of the old west are over, we need laws and regulations not civil war. I'm not calling for the old west, or for civil war, or for a lack of laws. You're the one advocating a greater power disparity between police and civilians.