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A Murder Suspect Asked Siri Where He Should Hide His Roommate

20 points by Shivetya 12y ago

mikehc 12y ago
"Gainesville Police Department detective Matt Goeckel said the flashlight on Bravo’s phone had also been used on nine occasions that night, for a total of 48 minutes" How can they get this information? I would definitely like to see what my phone has stored about me.
- 51Cards 12y ago
  Possibly a log of system events?
- luos 12y ago
  If you have an android and enabled some kind of feature by mistake (like me, I always say no for these but it has my location, even when I was abroad) you can see the log here: https://maps.google.com/locationhistory/b/0 https://maps.google.com/locationhistory/b/0
sp332 12y ago
Actually, he probably didn't. He has an iPhone 4 which doesn't even support Siri. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/08/murder-suspect-asked-siri-where-to-hide-my-roommate/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/08/murder-suspect-asked...
- 37prime 12y ago
  Where in the Ars Technica article does it say if the suspect has an iPhone 4?
  - sp332 12y ago
    Sorry, it was linked and discussed in the comments there. Source is http://gainesville-florida.yourlocalnews.us/index.php?zfcategory=ABC%2020%20WCBJ%20News&zftitle=+Bravo+Trial+Day+7%3A+%22I+Need+To+Hide+My+Roommate.%22 http://gainesville-florida.yourlocalnews.us/index.php?zfcate...
rubyrescue 12y ago
For the HN crowd, the buried lede is that the flashlight stores location information when in-use.
- UnethicalHacks 12y ago
  good to know for when... http://unethicalhacks.com/63/ http://unethicalhacks.com/63/
- weaksauce 12y ago
  You sure that it stores that or does it just store the fact that the flashlight was on in some log somewhere on the device. I could see the usage statistics of pretty much anything being stored in /var/log/<app access log> and then cross referenced with the location information that the phone already stores. The likely just correlated the two... in fact the location information is likely on no mater what and they could have used that anyway.
Crito 12y ago
I suppose it is a testament to Apple's ability to design for usability that people so profoundly stupid are able to use their products..
cratermoon 12y ago
No, Pedro Bravo Didn’t Ask Siri Where to Stash His Roommate’s Body: http://www.wuft.org/news/2014/08/13/no-pedro-bravo-didnt-ask-siri-where-to-stash-his-roomates-body http://www.wuft.org/news/2014/08/13/no-pedro-bravo-didnt-ask...

20 points by Shivetya 12y ago

"Gainesville Police Department detective Matt Goeckel said the flashlight on Bravo’s phone had also been used on nine occasions that night, for a total of 48 minutes" How can they get this information? I would definitely like to see what my phone has stored about me.

51Cards 12y ago
Possibly a log of system events?
luos 12y ago
If you have an android and enabled some kind of feature by mistake (like me, I always say no for these but it has my location, even when I was abroad) you can see the log here: https://maps.google.com/locationhistory/b/0 https://maps.google.com/locationhistory/b/0

sp332 12y ago

Actually, he probably didn't. He has an iPhone 4 which doesn't even support Siri. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/08/murder-suspect-asked-siri-where-to-hide-my-roommate/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/08/murder-suspect-asked...

37prime 12y ago
Where in the Ars Technica article does it say if the suspect has an iPhone 4?
- sp332 12y ago
  Sorry, it was linked and discussed in the comments there. Source is http://gainesville-florida.yourlocalnews.us/index.php?zfcategory=ABC%2020%20WCBJ%20News&zftitle=+Bravo+Trial+Day+7%3A+%22I+Need+To+Hide+My+Roommate.%22 http://gainesville-florida.yourlocalnews.us/index.php?zfcate...

rubyrescue 12y ago

For the HN crowd, the buried lede is that the flashlight stores location information when in-use.

UnethicalHacks 12y ago
good to know for when... http://unethicalhacks.com/63/ http://unethicalhacks.com/63/
weaksauce 12y ago
You sure that it stores that or does it just store the fact that the flashlight was on in some log somewhere on the device. I could see the usage statistics of pretty much anything being stored in /var/log/<app access log> and then cross referenced with the location information that the phone already stores. The likely just correlated the two... in fact the location information is likely on no mater what and they could have used that anyway.

Crito 12y ago

I suppose it is a testament to Apple's ability to design for usability that people so profoundly stupid are able to use their products..

cratermoon 12y ago

No, Pedro Bravo Didn’t Ask Siri Where to Stash His Roommate’s Body: http://www.wuft.org/news/2014/08/13/no-pedro-bravo-didnt-ask-siri-where-to-stash-his-roomates-body http://www.wuft.org/news/2014/08/13/no-pedro-bravo-didnt-ask...