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It isn't just that. I have opinions on the subject (which tend to get me attacked but not flamed -- I dunno, maybe I am oblivious to the flames). But to the e
by einhverfr 12y ago
It isn't just that. I have opinions on the subject (which tend to get me attacked but not flamed -- I dunno, maybe I am oblivious to the flames). But to the extent that my opinion is informed by cross-cultural experience it does come across as extreme and probably not very friendly to the YC/HN crowds.
> But the voices in this game aren't reasonable and rational anymore.
Part of the problem is that the assumptions that underlie the discussion are flawed and so this leads to shrill argument. Maybe the sexism in tech is far more systemic and far less individual than folks would like to think. But if we admit to that we have to stop blaming individuals and direct the effort instead to reforming the system.
A nice parallel to this are the discussions of abortion and gun control. These discussions, too, end up being discussed solely in terms of individualism and individual rights in the US. But this leads to very narrow possibilities regarding solutions. Would the NRA approve of the Swiss approach to gun control (widespread gun ownership along with mandatory military service, mental health checks, and so forth)? Probably not. And imagine how angry both sides would be if the US followed Denmark and banned second trimester elective abortions but publicly funded first trimester abortions. I am not speaking to the wisdom of such policies (which is off-topic here) but just making an observation about how individualism narrows the discussion and scope of possible solutions.
The discussions of sexism end up a lot like these other discussions. These are seen solely as individual issues, rather than questions of community structure. Since we can't discuss the latter, everything becomes name-calling.
What the discussion needs is for a large number of voices to come together and discuss "why I am making the decisions I am making." Only then can we even have a clear view of the issues.