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When compared to other wired home automation manufacturers (like Niko) and for the same functionality (# switches, lights, valves etc.) it is way cheaper. The m

by erwt 12y ago

When compared to other wired home automation manufacturers (like Niko) and for the same functionality (# switches, lights, valves etc.) it is way cheaper. The main module is costly though. Btw, it's not a wireless system so only usable for a new house/completen renovation.

msandford 12y ago
Yeah, but that's like saying a Tesla Model S is a cheap car. It is compared to ferraris and lambos and porsches and the like, which are what it's competing against. But there are plenty of other cars out there which are cheaper than any of those like hondas and toyotas and fords and whatnot.
- erwt 12y ago
  That depends on your views/intentions on home automation. If you're looking to have some switched outlets here and there get, sure, get this instead: http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-WeMo-F7C027fcAPL-Discontinued-manufacturer/dp/B0089WFPRO/ref=sr_1_23?s=lamps-light&ie=UTF8&qid=1407882006&sr=1-23 http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-WeMo-F7C027fcAPL-Discontinued-m... If you'd rather have HA as a core component in your house a wired solution offers the best value for money imo. No batteries, no (possible) interference, greatly reduced security issues etc. the wires in the wall will always work. Once you have a larger number of inputs & outputs connected to the system the price of that gateway starts making sense as the other hardware is a lot cheaper in comparison.
  - msandford 12y ago
    The point I'm trying to make is that the website is misleading. It says "home automation" rather than "professional home automation". There isn't ANYTHING to indicate that it's real home automation for adults rather than the cheap crap you can buy at big box stores these days. Tesla can say that it makes fairly inexpensive top-of-the-line luxury cars. But it can't claim to make cheap cars in general. OpenMotics might be very reasonable compared to Niko but that's not the entire home automation market. To claim that it is or ignore the notion that there are other, worse-is-better competitors out there severely harms the credibility of the marketing effort. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_automation#Comparison_of_popular_protocols http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_automation#Comparison_of_p...

by erwt 12y ago

msandford 12y ago

Yeah, but that's like saying a Tesla Model S is a cheap car. It is compared to ferraris and lambos and porsches and the like, which are what it's competing against. But there are plenty of other cars out there which are cheaper than any of those like hondas and toyotas and fords and whatnot.

erwt 12y ago
That depends on your views/intentions on home automation. If you're looking to have some switched outlets here and there get, sure, get this instead: http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-WeMo-F7C027fcAPL-Discontinued-manufacturer/dp/B0089WFPRO/ref=sr_1_23?s=lamps-light&ie=UTF8&qid=1407882006&sr=1-23 http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-WeMo-F7C027fcAPL-Discontinued-m... If you'd rather have HA as a core component in your house a wired solution offers the best value for money imo. No batteries, no (possible) interference, greatly reduced security issues etc. the wires in the wall will always work. Once you have a larger number of inputs & outputs connected to the system the price of that gateway starts making sense as the other hardware is a lot cheaper in comparison.
- msandford 12y ago
  The point I'm trying to make is that the website is misleading. It says "home automation" rather than "professional home automation". There isn't ANYTHING to indicate that it's real home automation for adults rather than the cheap crap you can buy at big box stores these days. Tesla can say that it makes fairly inexpensive top-of-the-line luxury cars. But it can't claim to make cheap cars in general. OpenMotics might be very reasonable compared to Niko but that's not the entire home automation market. To claim that it is or ignore the notion that there are other, worse-is-better competitors out there severely harms the credibility of the marketing effort. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_automation#Comparison_of_popular_protocols http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_automation#Comparison_of_p...