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Panamax: Docker Management for Humans

76 points by waffle_ss 12y ago

pessimizer 12y ago
Panamax, the hot new board game about the Panama Canal: http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/131287/panamax http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/131287/panamax
- killion 12y ago
  Also the manufacturer of some great power conditioners: http://www.panamax.com http://www.panamax.com I'm actually kind of sad that they will start loosing their Google Juice now. They are a good company.
terhechte 12y ago
I was able to play with the Panamax beta for the last couple of days, and it is an impressive system. The ease of use as well as the UI make it feel as if complex web applications can be installed as easily as local desktop apps on a Mac. I.e. due to the containerization and the use of setup scripts one can really easily install several interdependent dependencies in with one click. I installed a couple of open source systems just to see how it works, pretty awesome. I'm currently using Docker + Fig for all my Docker development and deployment needs. That's already a very simple solution, but it still requires finding different docker images, finding the necessary parameters in the documentation, and finally combining the images + the various parameters in a single fig.yml file. Panamax uses setup scripts which are very, very similar to those scripts that Orchard's Fig uses (which was just aquired by Docker). Only that it combines what I explained above in a single template that combines multiple images (Postgres + Nginx + PHP + Redis, for example) and lets you just run it with the click of a button. And, as it is with Docker installations, no local tainting of you main system with various databases (like postgres / redis); everything is installed in a container and runs in a container. Your main system stays clean. I like it.
- kentonv 12y ago
  So it sounds like you still do have to know e.g. what a database is? This isn't meant as something for end users to use to run their own server, but rather meant to make a sys admin's life easier? (Just trying to figure out how this relates to sandstorm.io.)
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therealmarv 12y ago
This all (Panamax + Fig) looks like a copycat of Ubuntu Juju. But in Ubuntu Juju you have a decent command line tool and decent UI all in one and you are not restricted to Docker only. Only needs more love and collaboration with Docker.
rkalla 12y ago
from "Century Link Labs" - didn't realize CL was that kind of company, very cool to see.
- klaruz 12y ago
  I think it comes from their AppFog acquisition.
heavenlyhash 12y ago
A note on usability to the authors of the sites for open-source projects like this: my personal "user story" case study flows something like this: 1. I read the front page, skim the comment thread, and determine that this is roughly relevant to my interests. 2. I check that it's open source, because if it's not something I can install inside my firewall, my interest is terminated. (I expect this to be a quicker and easier check than almost any other validator, so I do it first.) 3. I search for the word "source" and "github" on the front page. No links? Hrm. 4. I search for the word "source" and "github" on the "get panamax" page. STILL no links? 5. ...? I guess next step is to copy the project name into google and look for the repo from there. But danger, project maintainers, danger: this is a step in the conversion funnel where I simply might get distracted and you might lose me before I make it farther. In all honesty, I am still going to try things from a binary release before I try building it from source -- I'm no huge exception to the basic truths about onboarding flow needing as much ease as possible. But I'm still going to look to see if the source actually exists first. In this case, the github can be found by searching for the project name, and also by following some of the documentation links, which jump to a wiki on github. But I want that flow. The "Panamax is an open-source product from CenturyLink" footer line would be a great place for a direct link to the source repo.
- cardmagic 12y ago
  Great feedback, we have GitHub icons in the header and footer, but you are totally right, needs to be text... working on it now! BTW, here is the GitHub repo: https://github.com/CenturyLinkLabs/panamax-ui/wiki https://github.com/CenturyLinkLabs/panamax-ui/wiki
  - heavenlyhash 12y ago
    D'oh! I should have seen those. Sorry, I rely far to heavily on ctrl-f :)
    - cardmagic 12y ago
      No worries, you had a good point. We just added text link for the word "Source Code"
griffinheart 12y ago
Looks awesome, got all excited, then even more excited about the contest and then I read the FAQ. >I'm a developer outside the United States. Can I participate? >No. Unfortunately, due to some legal restrictions, this contest is not available to developers outside the United States. Believe us, we'd love to have you join in, but we're not allowed to. We'd like to have an international challenge in the future. I'll just have to be excited about the platform and contribute anyway with a discourse production ready template (Redis + Postgres + Discourse).
- cardmagic 12y ago
  I am so sorry, if this contest goes well I will try to do an international contest next! Please do contribute anyhow, I can't wait to see your discourse template!
  - griffinheart 12y ago
    Would it be possible to participate and donate any eventual prize to some us based charity?
HeyLaughingBoy 12y ago
Do you realize that Panamax is a registered trademark of www.panamax.com?
- biggest_lou 12y ago
  Is it? As far as I can tell, only their logo is trademarked. I'd be surprised if a general term like Panamax could be trademarked.
  - HeyLaughingBoy 12y ago
    I was originally thinking of the ship class and had never heard of Panamax the power conditioner. However at the end of http://www.panamax.com/PDF/Datasheets/M5400EX_L550A.pdf http://www.panamax.com/PDF/Datasheets/M5400EX_L550A.pdf it states that Panamax is their registered trademark.
joshuakarjala 12y ago
Seems nice so far. But the UI seems so cluttered with all the CenturyLink branding / blog roll etc.
nogox 12y ago
Will it be easily outgrown by users as heroku? It is better than heroku by giving the capability to compose your app from a vast docker image collection. But I guess that's good until you reach some scale/complexity.

76 points by waffle_ss 12y ago

Panamax, the hot new board game about the Panama Canal: http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/131287/panamax http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/131287/panamax

killion 12y ago
Also the manufacturer of some great power conditioners: http://www.panamax.com http://www.panamax.com I'm actually kind of sad that they will start loosing their Google Juice now. They are a good company.

terhechte 12y ago

I was able to play with the Panamax beta for the last couple of days, and it is an impressive system. The ease of use as well as the UI make it feel as if complex web applications can be installed as easily as local desktop apps on a Mac. I.e. due to the containerization and the use of setup scripts one can really easily install several interdependent dependencies in with one click. I installed a couple of open source systems just to see how it works, pretty awesome. I'm currently using Docker + Fig for all my Docker development and deployment needs. That's already a very simple solution, but it still requires finding different docker images, finding the necessary parameters in the documentation, and finally combining the images + the various parameters in a single fig.yml file. Panamax uses setup scripts which are very, very similar to those scripts that Orchard's Fig uses (which was just aquired by Docker). Only that it combines what I explained above in a single template that combines multiple images (Postgres + Nginx + PHP + Redis, for example) and lets you just run it with the click of a button. And, as it is with Docker installations, no local tainting of you main system with various databases (like postgres / redis); everything is installed in a container and runs in a container. Your main system stays clean. I like it.

kentonv 12y ago
So it sounds like you still do have to know e.g. what a database is? This isn't meant as something for end users to use to run their own server, but rather meant to make a sys admin's life easier? (Just trying to figure out how this relates to sandstorm.io.)

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therealmarv 12y ago

This all (Panamax + Fig) looks like a copycat of Ubuntu Juju. But in Ubuntu Juju you have a decent command line tool and decent UI all in one and you are not restricted to Docker only. Only needs more love and collaboration with Docker.

rkalla 12y ago

from "Century Link Labs" - didn't realize CL was that kind of company, very cool to see.

klaruz 12y ago
I think it comes from their AppFog acquisition.

heavenlyhash 12y ago

A note on usability to the authors of the sites for open-source projects like this: my personal "user story" case study flows something like this: 1. I read the front page, skim the comment thread, and determine that this is roughly relevant to my interests. 2. I check that it's open source, because if it's not something I can install inside my firewall, my interest is terminated. (I expect this to be a quicker and easier check than almost any other validator, so I do it first.) 3. I search for the word "source" and "github" on the front page. No links? Hrm. 4. I search for the word "source" and "github" on the "get panamax" page. STILL no links? 5. ...? I guess next step is to copy the project name into google and look for the repo from there. But danger, project maintainers, danger: this is a step in the conversion funnel where I simply might get distracted and you might lose me before I make it farther. In all honesty, I am still going to try things from a binary release before I try building it from source -- I'm no huge exception to the basic truths about onboarding flow needing as much ease as possible. But I'm still going to look to see if the source actually exists first. In this case, the github can be found by searching for the project name, and also by following some of the documentation links, which jump to a wiki on github. But I want that flow. The "Panamax is an open-source product from CenturyLink" footer line would be a great place for a direct link to the source repo.

cardmagic 12y ago
Great feedback, we have GitHub icons in the header and footer, but you are totally right, needs to be text... working on it now! BTW, here is the GitHub repo: https://github.com/CenturyLinkLabs/panamax-ui/wiki https://github.com/CenturyLinkLabs/panamax-ui/wiki
- heavenlyhash 12y ago
  D'oh! I should have seen those. Sorry, I rely far to heavily on ctrl-f :)
  - cardmagic 12y ago
    No worries, you had a good point. We just added text link for the word "Source Code"

griffinheart 12y ago

Looks awesome, got all excited, then even more excited about the contest and then I read the FAQ. >I'm a developer outside the United States. Can I participate? >No. Unfortunately, due to some legal restrictions, this contest is not available to developers outside the United States. Believe us, we'd love to have you join in, but we're not allowed to. We'd like to have an international challenge in the future. I'll just have to be excited about the platform and contribute anyway with a discourse production ready template (Redis + Postgres + Discourse).

cardmagic 12y ago
I am so sorry, if this contest goes well I will try to do an international contest next! Please do contribute anyhow, I can't wait to see your discourse template!
- griffinheart 12y ago
  Would it be possible to participate and donate any eventual prize to some us based charity?

HeyLaughingBoy 12y ago

Do you realize that Panamax is a registered trademark of www.panamax.com?

biggest_lou 12y ago
Is it? As far as I can tell, only their logo is trademarked. I'd be surprised if a general term like Panamax could be trademarked.
- HeyLaughingBoy 12y ago
  I was originally thinking of the ship class and had never heard of Panamax the power conditioner. However at the end of http://www.panamax.com/PDF/Datasheets/M5400EX_L550A.pdf http://www.panamax.com/PDF/Datasheets/M5400EX_L550A.pdf it states that Panamax is their registered trademark.

joshuakarjala 12y ago

Seems nice so far. But the UI seems so cluttered with all the CenturyLink branding / blog roll etc.

nogox 12y ago

Will it be easily outgrown by users as heroku? It is better than heroku by giving the capability to compose your app from a vast docker image collection. But I guess that's good until you reach some scale/complexity.