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Right. I don't think we're disagreeing. Just pointing out that the stuff that individuals do is essentially the stuff that only record labels could do once upon

Right. I don't think we're disagreeing. Just pointing out that the stuff that individuals do is essentially the stuff that only record labels could do once upon a time. I was responding to the idea that record companies didn't do anything.

tptacek 17y ago
Based on empirical evidence I find it hard to believe that labels really do nothing. Most big-selling major-label music is strictly inferior to what even Last.fm manages to find for me almost at random. They are clearly doing something to hypnotize people into buying Feist.
- pyre 17y ago
  Radio airtime and purposefully catchy tunes that stick in your head. I've found that the more you hear a song over and over again on the radio the more you end up liking it, even if you hated it at first. That's what hypnotizes people.
pyre 17y ago
I'm not saying that record labels do nothing, but the article is arguing that because The Beatles and Apple generated some marketing buzz that it's a death knell for the Recording studios. My point is that the recording studios never generated any buzz that wasn't artist specific. No one ever got excited about a press release from Universal Music or BMI... unless it was related to an artist. Using Apple (Computers) and The Beatles as examples of 'new media' is either woefully ignorant or intentionally misleading. The Beatles are the most famous 'rock' band (love them or hate them) in modern times (because there were more popular rock bands in the Dark Ages, but the records were lost). To declare that the recording industry is dead because artists can generate their own buzz, and then use The Beatles as a prime example? It's a chicken-or-the-egg problem. You can practically generate buzz on command when you get famous enough, but you need to use buzz to become that famous... and not every band can become that famous. This is the same as when Radiohead released In Rainbows with the 'pay what you want' model for online distribution -- which Trent Reznor claims to have paid like $5k for to support the idea. The only reason that Radiohead can do something like that is because they are already famous. Some no name garageband can't do that. Everyone would 'set their own price' at $0.

tptacek 17y ago

Based on empirical evidence I find it hard to believe that labels really do nothing. Most big-selling major-label music is strictly inferior to what even Last.fm manages to find for me almost at random. They are clearly doing something to hypnotize people into buying Feist.

pyre 17y ago
Radio airtime and purposefully catchy tunes that stick in your head. I've found that the more you hear a song over and over again on the radio the more you end up liking it, even if you hated it at first. That's what hypnotizes people.

pyre 17y ago

I'm not saying that record labels do nothing, but the article is arguing that because The Beatles and Apple generated some marketing buzz that it's a death knell for the Recording studios. My point is that the recording studios never generated any buzz that wasn't artist specific. No one ever got excited about a press release from Universal Music or BMI... unless it was related to an artist. Using Apple (Computers) and The Beatles as examples of 'new media' is either woefully ignorant or intentionally misleading. The Beatles are the most famous 'rock' band (love them or hate them) in modern times (because there were more popular rock bands in the Dark Ages, but the records were lost). To declare that the recording industry is dead because artists can generate their own buzz, and then use The Beatles as a prime example? It's a chicken-or-the-egg problem. You can practically generate buzz on command when you get famous enough, but you need to use buzz to become that famous... and not every band can become that famous. This is the same as when Radiohead released In Rainbows with the 'pay what you want' model for online distribution -- which Trent Reznor claims to have paid like $5k for to support the idea. The only reason that Radiohead can do something like that is because they are already famous. Some no name garageband can't do that. Everyone would 'set their own price' at $0.