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My last three addresses and all surrounding roads cannot be found on OSM. The streets are all there, they are just tagged incorrectly. With some help from the

by Vvector 12y ago

My last three addresses and all surrounding roads cannot be found on OSM. The streets are all there, they are just tagged incorrectly. With some help from the forum, I tried to correct the errors, but it never worked. Apparently there are 'broken relationships' that are beyond my ability to correct. http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=24177 http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=24177

sashazykov 12y ago
You can add a note and someone more experienced will fix it. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Notes http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Notes
maxerickson 12y ago
First, some nit picky semantics that aren't very helpful towards solving your problem: The search box on openstreetmap.org is powered by Nominatim, which is one particular system for indexing the OSM data. There are design choices and trade offs present in it. A different system could make different choices and trade offs. Nominatim prefers to associate streets with administrative boundaries that they are inside of. The data for counties is pretty solid, and in the U.S., pretty much every street is properly inside a county (or equivalent). The data for other administrative units is less solid (and often times less clear in the real world). If a street is not found inside of a city or town or the like, it is assigned to the nearest "place" node (I think with some accommodation for significance of the place). So, for instance, that's how Blackgum Drive ends up assigned to Marblehill. I'm not sure how other people are thinking about it, but I think the long term solution to what you are seeing is to build up exact address information and then also index that data for street-city (or place) relationships in search results. Given the way zip codes work and the hand waviness of postal addressing (the post office does a good job correctly routing miserably addresses mail), this is probably more sensible that trying to create boundaries. It would also be possible to index streets to several nearby places (but of course that's more work up front and more data to sift through on each search).
Vik1ng 12y ago
The street I get is thise one: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/9428636 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/9428636 And it is not located in Jasper: http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/119636 http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/119636 So is this the right street? Or should the street be where you linked the map? Because I can't find a street named Disharoon Dr. there.

by Vvector 12y ago

sashazykov 12y ago

You can add a note and someone more experienced will fix it. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Notes http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Notes

maxerickson 12y ago

First, some nit picky semantics that aren't very helpful towards solving your problem: The search box on openstreetmap.org is powered by Nominatim, which is one particular system for indexing the OSM data. There are design choices and trade offs present in it. A different system could make different choices and trade offs. Nominatim prefers to associate streets with administrative boundaries that they are inside of. The data for counties is pretty solid, and in the U.S., pretty much every street is properly inside a county (or equivalent). The data for other administrative units is less solid (and often times less clear in the real world). If a street is not found inside of a city or town or the like, it is assigned to the nearest "place" node (I think with some accommodation for significance of the place). So, for instance, that's how Blackgum Drive ends up assigned to Marblehill. I'm not sure how other people are thinking about it, but I think the long term solution to what you are seeing is to build up exact address information and then also index that data for street-city (or place) relationships in search results. Given the way zip codes work and the hand waviness of postal addressing (the post office does a good job correctly routing miserably addresses mail), this is probably more sensible that trying to create boundaries. It would also be possible to index streets to several nearby places (but of course that's more work up front and more data to sift through on each search).

Vik1ng 12y ago

The street I get is thise one: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/9428636 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/9428636 And it is not located in Jasper: http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/119636 http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/119636 So is this the right street? Or should the street be where you linked the map? Because I can't find a street named Disharoon Dr. there.