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You know why you lost the lottery? Because Indian outsourcing firms like Infosys, Wipro flooded it with applications to bring in cheap labor! There's no talent

You know why you lost the lottery? Because Indian outsourcing firms like Infosys, Wipro flooded it with applications to bring in cheap labor! There's no talent or extraordinary ability among the people they bring in. IMO, outsourcing companies should be banned from h1-b/greencard, period. Banning them, I doubt the H1-B quota will even fill-up EDIT: In response to the downvoters, Im Indian myself and I know the quality of candidates these bodyshopper/outsourcing companies bring in. They are pretty much the bottom rung if the Indian education system. Most of them barely even speak/write English legibly. They also bring an incredibly bad name to the rest of the Indian developer community.

untog 12y ago
I have interviewed a few candidates from companies like this, with Masters in Computer Science/IT/whatever. They were perfectly adept at coding C#, using the Entity Framework, etc... writing SQL? No. A few literally had no idea how it was structured. One of a few reasons I'm glad to not be in the .NET world any more.
bruceb 12y ago
All the people I know in Infosys/Wipro speaking English perfectly fine. While for some position they don't get the cream of the crop they are still companies that server a worldwide customer base. You are exaggerating or thinking of other outsourcing firms (there are bad ones for sure with mediocre talent)
cgh 12y ago
The quality of Indian programmers tends to vary wildly. I currently work with some guys who are really good, and one guy who is simply incredible, while in the past I've worked with people who literally had never since a command line interface before. This was for a position where we deployed to Linux.
- nesyt 12y ago
  The quality of programmers tends to vary wildly.
curiousDog 12y ago
Here's a link to how many visas these companies steal: http://abcnews.go.com/Business/top-10-companies-request-visas-foreign-workers/story?id=20730536 http://abcnews.go.com/Business/top-10-companies-request-visa... . They're literally flooding it (Around 75%, from the looks of it)

untog 12y ago

I have interviewed a few candidates from companies like this, with Masters in Computer Science/IT/whatever. They were perfectly adept at coding C#, using the Entity Framework, etc... writing SQL? No. A few literally had no idea how it was structured. One of a few reasons I'm glad to not be in the .NET world any more.

bruceb 12y ago

All the people I know in Infosys/Wipro speaking English perfectly fine. While for some position they don't get the cream of the crop they are still companies that server a worldwide customer base. You are exaggerating or thinking of other outsourcing firms (there are bad ones for sure with mediocre talent)

cgh 12y ago

The quality of Indian programmers tends to vary wildly. I currently work with some guys who are really good, and one guy who is simply incredible, while in the past I've worked with people who literally had never since a command line interface before. This was for a position where we deployed to Linux.

nesyt 12y ago
The quality of programmers tends to vary wildly.

curiousDog 12y ago

Here's a link to how many visas these companies steal: http://abcnews.go.com/Business/top-10-companies-request-visas-foreign-workers/story?id=20730536 http://abcnews.go.com/Business/top-10-companies-request-visa... . They're literally flooding it (Around 75%, from the looks of it)