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Then where is the pressure to get opengl on the consoles? In theory right now you could write some engine that used openglES 3 and ran on Android, iOS, OSX, Win

by zanny 12y ago

Then where is the pressure to get opengl on the consoles? In theory right now you could write some engine that used openglES 3 and ran on Android, iOS, OSX, Windows, and Linux. Your only missing parts are the three consoles, none of which show any interest in supporting write once run everywhere. I mean, I know why - it is because the entire console model is license deals, app store cuts, and exclusives. If you could write your games and seamlessly run them everywhere, console manufacturers lose their primary pitch to consumers. Especially since this console generation isn't amazing value hardware wise, you can build a computer as powerful as either for the same price as either. And peripherals are an awful argument, because they are all wifi / bluetooth / usb based, nothing stops these companies from selling their accessories like the Move, Kinect, Wiimote, etc as pc peripherals with open APIs besides their complacency.

shmerl 12y ago
> Then where is the pressure to get opengl on the consoles? Valve is just entering consoles scene. It's too early to call that pressure, but they at least plan to disrupt it. Time will tell. > it is because the entire console model is license deals, app store cuts, and exclusives. Yes, that's why this sick approach needs some serious disruption. Linux gaming looks like one. > if you could write your games and seamlessly run them everywhere, console manufacturers lose their primary pitch to consumers. Exclusivity is a weird pitch. Real pitch of consoles should be in ease of access, usability and user friendliness. > you can build a computer as powerful as either for the same price as either. That's exactly what consoles should be about - plug and play. No building for those who don't want it. All of that doesn't preclude using cross platform technologies. Let console makers compete on hardware (Asus, Dell whoever) and not on locking developers into their walled garden proprietary OS and APIs.

by zanny 12y ago

shmerl 12y ago

> Then where is the pressure to get opengl on the consoles? Valve is just entering consoles scene. It's too early to call that pressure, but they at least plan to disrupt it. Time will tell. > it is because the entire console model is license deals, app store cuts, and exclusives. Yes, that's why this sick approach needs some serious disruption. Linux gaming looks like one. > if you could write your games and seamlessly run them everywhere, console manufacturers lose their primary pitch to consumers. Exclusivity is a weird pitch. Real pitch of consoles should be in ease of access, usability and user friendliness. > you can build a computer as powerful as either for the same price as either. That's exactly what consoles should be about - plug and play. No building for those who don't want it. All of that doesn't preclude using cross platform technologies. Let console makers compete on hardware (Asus, Dell whoever) and not on locking developers into their walled garden proprietary OS and APIs.