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It's interesting how the airline industry has evolved. Years ago going from Australia to Europe typically meant going on the "kangaroo route" [1], typically vi
by cletus 12y ago
It's interesting how the airline industry has evolved.
Years ago going from Australia to Europe typically meant going on the "kangaroo route" [1], typically via Singapore (the Qantas/BA/Singapore connection last year was replaced with a Qantas/Emirate/Dubai alliance). If you flew to continental Europe you often ended up flying to London and catching a local flight.
I visited the US in the 90s and ended up using US Air for a bunch of domestic flights. Primarily this was because at the time you could buy, as a foreigner, a number of flight coupons (that worked out to be about $50 each after 3 or so) that were redeemable for a single one-way flight (within a 3 month window).
US Air was (and is) pretty much the last holdout of the "hub" airline model in the US. I recall catching all those flights with layovers through Charlotte or Pittsburgh (or was it Philadelphia?).
The article is right that many passengers including myself prefer direct flights but there is some variability here. For example, I can fly NYC to SFO for as little as $260 coach return in non-peak periods. More typically it's $500-600. I can fly "First class" (it's not really that but it's a bigger seat with more legroom at least) on AA for $1100 via ORD or DFW. That's actually worth it at times. This compares favourably with the $4000+ AA charges for business on the new A321Ts.
Also, why do people prefer direct flights? It is at least in part due to the horrible experience and security theater that is modern air travel.
The A321T rollout is an example of what the article is talking about with reducing capacity too. Once complete, AA will end up with less transcon seat capacity.
But now there are not many places on the planet I can't get to from a major airport that require more than one layover. Hell, I can get from NYC to Perth, Australia (almost the complete other side of the planet) with one stop in Dubai, Doha or Hong Kong, possibly Tokyo and/or Seoul too.
I remember the fanfare the A380 came with 7-10 years ago and the competition with Boeing with what I think was the 747-400X? It was a concept that Boeing lost out on and was scrapped. They dodged a bullet on that one.
These days it's hard not to be on a Boeing 777-300ER (sometimes called 77W) for any serious long haul flights.
The article makes no mention of this but I MUCH prefer wide body planes (2 aisles not 1) as it gives you a chance of getting a center aisle seat where no one has to clamber over you to get to the bathroom. Ugh.
Anyway, this also evokes such boondoggles as the LA-SF "high speed" rail, which looks to be costing $30B, will take 15+ years to build, isn't that fast and is designed to solve a problem that isn't really a problem. The so-called problem is seat capacity between these two cities. It seems like the market is capable of solving this problem with bigger planes no one (currently) wants and prioritizing particular routes.
[1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangaroo_Route http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangaroo_Route
- pdonis 12y ago> why do people prefer direct flights? It is at least in part due to the horrible experience and security theater that is modern air travel The security theater part doesn't make sense, because connecting passengers don't have to go through security a second time. I'll agree with the "horrible experience" part, but I think the main reason people prefer direct flights is simply that it saves time.
- dragonwriter 12y agoThey do if it's an international connecting flight (that is, if the change occurs at the port of entry), our if the flights are in different terminals in the same airport, or...
- pdonis 12y ago> They do if it's an international connecting flight (that is, if the change occurs at the port of entry) Yes, that's true; but that's not a reason to prefer direct flights that are domestic only, which a lot of US air traffic is. Other parts of the world do differ, yes. (Although I wonder: do international flights within the EU still require re-screening if you make a domestic connection? There's no passport control or customs, right?) > our if the flights are in different terminals in the same airport ...and the airport doesn't have a way of going from terminal to terminal without leaving the secure area; but lots of airports, particularly those with a lot of connecting flights, do have that (either a train or shuttle bus).
- jzwinck 12y agoIf connecting passengers never went through additional security, this man would still be alive: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Tuong_Nguyen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Tuong_Nguyen
- pdonis 12y agoHe had a four-hour layover in Singapore. Did he leave the secure area during that time, even though he was not required to?