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Thomas Freidman suggested this in "The World is Flat." I liked some things about this suggestion. It doesn't specifically target engineering or science, so it
by geebee 17y ago
Thomas Freidman suggested this in "The World is Flat." I liked some things about this suggestion. It doesn't specifically target engineering or science, so it wouldn't distort the market, and a Ph.D (I think Friedman included all doctoral degrees) from an accredited institution is sufficiently rigorous that I don't think it would be as easy to "game" the system.
But still, there are a lot of things I really don't like about this proposal as well.
My experience as a grad student in engineering at Berkeley has left me convinced that these programs are utterly abusive of their students. If there's a shortage of Americans willing to sign up for PhD's in STEM fields, these institutions deserve it. Plus, starting salaries for PhD's in science/engineering lag badly behind MBA/JD/MD programs. This would only exacerbate the situation. And if a Ph.D granting institution is able to award citizenship along with a PhD, there's pretty much no limit to the abusiveness they'll get away with. Hey professors - Want to keep your highly trained poorly paid lab tech around for another year? No problem - you control his dream of citizenship, so trust me, he'll keep working 80 hour weeks for you for $22K a year.
When this sets the standard for treatment of grad students, Americans will all but abandon the field. Expect the already high percentage of foreign students in PhD programs to jump even higher if this becomes policy.
- linuxconvert 17y agoMy experience as a grad student in CS at a UC left me with the same conclusion. I left, in ABD status a year after getting my MS because of the working conditions. It makes no financial sense to do a PhD in CS unless you want a pure research or Professorship. I'm significantly ahead financially of my peers who completed the PhD program and professionally as well due to my experience. Of course there are neat ways for PhD holders to sidestep labor certification to hugely speedup up their greencard applications so I am somewhat being punished for making the saner professional/financial decision!