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That's because self-driving cars aren't a car problem, they're a computer problem. Why would you think that a car company would be experts in machine learning?

by adwf 12y ago

That's because self-driving cars aren't a car problem, they're a computer problem. Why would you think that a car company would be experts in machine learning? Doesn't matter how many decades they've been working on it, they just aren't domain experts. Now it's possible they have since hired some experts, but a good 80%+ of all the well-known AI/Machine learning people I know of are working for Google. Google have got the guys who literally wrote the book on AI.

threeseed 12y ago
Because the car companies ship tens of millions of cars today with auto parking and accident avoidance. They clearly know how to combine all the pieces in a robust and safe way. And if 80% of the well known people in AI/machine learning are employed by Google then I assume that no interesting work is being done outside there. Pretty sure there are a few companies around who would disagree with you there.
coldtea 12y ago
>That's because self-driving cars aren't a car problem, they're a computer problem. Why would you think that a car company would be experts in machine learning? Because they can hire expers in machine learning just fine. Just how they progressed from dumb cars in the 50's to modern cars full of real-time OSes, micro-computers and sensors and stuff. Plus, I don't see Google as any kind of "experts in machine learning", with perhaps the exception of search. Google having access to my email and web habits and showing me BS unrelated ads doesn't boost my confidence in their machine learning capabilities either.
JoeAltmaier 12y ago
Be fair; its both. Sensors and integration are part of the problem, and that's not Google's forte. In fact they had to hire the DARPA guys to get that expertise. Arguably car companies could do something similar to shore up their deficits in this field.

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That's because self-driving cars aren't a car problem, they're a computer problem. Why would you think that a car company would be experts in machine learning?

by adwf 12y ago

threeseed 12y ago
Because the car companies ship tens of millions of cars today with auto parking and accident avoidance. They clearly know how to combine all the pieces in a robust and safe way. And if 80% of the well known people in AI/machine learning are employed by Google then I assume that no interesting work is being done outside there. Pretty sure there are a few companies around who would disagree with you there.
coldtea 12y ago
>That's because self-driving cars aren't a car problem, they're a computer problem. Why would you think that a car company would be experts in machine learning? Because they can hire expers in machine learning just fine. Just how they progressed from dumb cars in the 50's to modern cars full of real-time OSes, micro-computers and sensors and stuff. Plus, I don't see Google as any kind of "experts in machine learning", with perhaps the exception of search. Google having access to my email and web habits and showing me BS unrelated ads doesn't boost my confidence in their machine learning capabilities either.
JoeAltmaier 12y ago
Be fair; its both. Sensors and integration are part of the problem, and that's not Google's forte. In fact they had to hire the DARPA guys to get that expertise. Arguably car companies could do something similar to shore up their deficits in this field.