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CherryPy is multi-threaded, so I am not sure what you are saying is correct. There are two types of servers: multi-threaded, multi-process. Tornado is multi-pro

CherryPy is multi-threaded, so I am not sure what you are saying is correct. There are two types of servers: multi-threaded, multi-process. Tornado is multi-process. If your server is multi-threaded, it uses all of the cores without additional processes. CherryPy did max out the CPU on all of the cores in the load test, so I think it was a fair test.

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dowskitest 17y ago
If you ran a single CherryPy instance, I don't see how that is possible. The Python global interpreter lock prevents a single process from making use of multiple cores.
- jnoller 17y ago
  No, it doesn't. I/O bound tasks can heavily use multiple cores just fine using threads.
  - TimothyFitz 17y ago
    If you're CPU bound in pure-python computations then the GIL (Global Interpreter Lock) will cause you to only make use of one core. This is intentional: threads are hard, processes are simple.
    - jnoller 17y ago
      I know that, except most web application servers spend most of their time in I/O - socket, database, etc. Threads are not hard: wanton abuse of shared state and concurrent modification of the shared state is hard to get right; tread a threaded app like a message-passing app and you have a much simpler life. I'm intimately familiar with the limitations of python threads - and right now I'm the maintainer of the multiprocessing module, which is the process-based "reply" to the stdlib threading module.
      - pwmanagerdied 17y ago
        <3 multiprocessing, <3 you.
      - TimothyFitz 17y ago
        I wasn't trying to claim you don't understand python, simply that the only way to be CPU bound on multiple cores with a single python process (as is claimed) is to be running non-pure python code that unlocks the GIL before doing CPU intensive work.
  - illumen 17y ago
    Can python use mutiple cpus/cores with threads? Short answer no. Long answer, yes for some things. Even cpu bound tasks can release the GIL to do processing(for non python api tasks).

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dowskitest 17y ago

If you ran a single CherryPy instance, I don't see how that is possible. The Python global interpreter lock prevents a single process from making use of multiple cores.

jnoller 17y ago
No, it doesn't. I/O bound tasks can heavily use multiple cores just fine using threads.
- TimothyFitz 17y ago
  If you're CPU bound in pure-python computations then the GIL (Global Interpreter Lock) will cause you to only make use of one core. This is intentional: threads are hard, processes are simple.
  - jnoller 17y ago
    I know that, except most web application servers spend most of their time in I/O - socket, database, etc. Threads are not hard: wanton abuse of shared state and concurrent modification of the shared state is hard to get right; tread a threaded app like a message-passing app and you have a much simpler life. I'm intimately familiar with the limitations of python threads - and right now I'm the maintainer of the multiprocessing module, which is the process-based "reply" to the stdlib threading module.
    - pwmanagerdied 17y ago
      <3 multiprocessing, <3 you.
    - TimothyFitz 17y ago
      I wasn't trying to claim you don't understand python, simply that the only way to be CPU bound on multiple cores with a single python process (as is claimed) is to be running non-pure python code that unlocks the GIL before doing CPU intensive work.
- illumen 17y ago
  Can python use mutiple cpus/cores with threads? Short answer no. Long answer, yes for some things. Even cpu bound tasks can release the GIL to do processing(for non python api tasks).