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w/r/t The Protestant Work Ethic: The book only gets a one-sentence mention in the article, but much, much more could be said. Particularly, it presents overwo

w/r/t The Protestant Work Ethic: The book only gets a one-sentence mention in the article, but much, much more could be said. Particularly, it presents overworking as a form of paranoia. Working was framed as a duty to God and since we didn't know if God existed, we were to work hard, just in case. Now that we've (largely) shifted our beliefs from a Christian god to more diffused spirituality, we can stop justifying overwork in this way.

learc83 12y ago
> Now that we've (largely) shifted our beliefs from a Christian god to more diffused spirituality Where did you get that from? A quick google search says about 3/4 of Americans identify as Christian, and about 62% are members of a church congregation.
- MisterBastahrd 12y ago
  I'd guess about half of that identify as Christian because it's socially unacceptable to be agnostic. Church communities have more uses than simple religious worship. Ask any salesman.
  - jqm 12y ago
    On this topic how many days a week do pastors work?
    - PaulWillis 12y ago
      The pastors I'm familiar with all work a typical work week - 40 hours or more. Plus visiting the hospital, counseling, weddings, funerals etc.
    - learc83 12y ago
      My dad was a music director and assistant pastor. He worked about 5 days a week, and also had another job on the side. Choir practice, church functions and services, preparing sermons, visiting sick church members, counseling members, and doing charity work add up to a good bit of time.
  - learc83 12y ago
    >I'd guess about half of that identify as Christian because it's socially unacceptable to be agnostic. That's much less an issue now than 50 years ago though, which is what's important when talking about a relative decline. It was much less socially acceptable to identify as agnostic in 1960 than it is today.
    - WalterSear 12y ago
      Still a huge issue in much of the US.
- itbeho 12y ago
  That's a good example of the echo chamber that HN and Silicon Valley have become. Removed from the rest of the country (and world) in so many ways...
- jqm 12y ago
  Appeal to popularity is a bad argument. But I think what the original poster intended was the decline in number of Americans attending a traditional church or believing in Christianity. That shift is fairly pronounced, especially over the last two decades.
- chillingeffect 12y ago
  That's a valid point and some people below have valid points, too. I was definitely speaking from my own social milieu (young to middle age tech workers). In fact, the line from Christianity to work ethic is still so indistinct, many things would have to happen in order for us to make the jump to working less. On the other hand, if the current younger generation is as unemployed as I understand it, then perhaps working fewer hours will simply be their default choice.

learc83 12y ago

> Now that we've (largely) shifted our beliefs from a Christian god to more diffused spirituality Where did you get that from? A quick google search says about 3/4 of Americans identify as Christian, and about 62% are members of a church congregation.

MisterBastahrd 12y ago
I'd guess about half of that identify as Christian because it's socially unacceptable to be agnostic. Church communities have more uses than simple religious worship. Ask any salesman.
- jqm 12y ago
  On this topic how many days a week do pastors work?
  - PaulWillis 12y ago
    The pastors I'm familiar with all work a typical work week - 40 hours or more. Plus visiting the hospital, counseling, weddings, funerals etc.
  - learc83 12y ago
    My dad was a music director and assistant pastor. He worked about 5 days a week, and also had another job on the side. Choir practice, church functions and services, preparing sermons, visiting sick church members, counseling members, and doing charity work add up to a good bit of time.
- learc83 12y ago
  >I'd guess about half of that identify as Christian because it's socially unacceptable to be agnostic. That's much less an issue now than 50 years ago though, which is what's important when talking about a relative decline. It was much less socially acceptable to identify as agnostic in 1960 than it is today.
  - WalterSear 12y ago
    Still a huge issue in much of the US.
itbeho 12y ago
That's a good example of the echo chamber that HN and Silicon Valley have become. Removed from the rest of the country (and world) in so many ways...
jqm 12y ago
Appeal to popularity is a bad argument. But I think what the original poster intended was the decline in number of Americans attending a traditional church or believing in Christianity. That shift is fairly pronounced, especially over the last two decades.
chillingeffect 12y ago
That's a valid point and some people below have valid points, too. I was definitely speaking from my own social milieu (young to middle age tech workers). In fact, the line from Christianity to work ethic is still so indistinct, many things would have to happen in order for us to make the jump to working less. On the other hand, if the current younger generation is as unemployed as I understand it, then perhaps working fewer hours will simply be their default choice.