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Like others, I find the title of this thread problematic. I also find your apparent refusal to understand _why_ it is problematic, even more problematic. You co

Like others, I find the title of this thread problematic. I also find your apparent refusal to understand _why_ it is problematic, even more problematic. You could have said parents instead of mom. Think about why you didn't. Got that off my chest, moving on: The video and landing page are very attractive. The video is solid but too long. While watching it, I kept mentally inserting edit markers. You can get this down to 30 seconds and it will be crisper and more to the point. When the bulk of a video is audio (you're basically just overlaying some audio on top of AE or Motion, and it looks great, but this isn't a complex story), make sure you're being as concise as you can be. If I were you, I'd edit the audio track first, cut some pauses and redundant phrasing, get it to 30 seconds, then match the animation accordingly. The end result will likely be way more successful and impressive. Brevity is bliss. Other thoughts: * You need examples of other sites, of the site builder tool (and of the data entry form) and of the backend. * You are going up against Squarespace, Wix, Weebly, Yola and others. Wix, Weebly and Yola also have "free" options. I'm not advocating that you take that approach (on the contrary, I think when you do that it is often a deterrent to viable, paying customers because your main appeal is to the bottom of the barrel), but you need to be able to answer the question, "why not X." This is a saturated market, you need to be able to explain why your solution is better/easier/more-secure/whatever * I want to know more about the company. I know this is just a Show HN, but before I would plunk down a credit card, I want some sort of idea (even if it is bullshit) of the people behind the site. As someone mentioned upthread, lay people fear losing their stuff if a host goes kaput. Speaking of which, what is your data portability process? - Good early launch page. Solid design. Now make sure you can actually answer real questions about your product!

tshile 12y ago
>Like others, I find the title of this thread problematic. I also find your apparent refusal to understand _why_ it is problematic, even more problematic. You could have said parents instead of mom. Think about why you didn't. Hah. So it's ok to be ageist but not sexist? Think about why you don't see 'parents' as ageist... This is the problem with today's politically correct climate - it's not about what the person is intending to say anymore, it's about how people perceive what is said. And if a group perceives it as offensive then look out, because it doesn't matter what your intentions were anymore because your intentions are now being decided by others for you. Any hypocrisy in those people's stances is obviously to be ignored. It's an interesting dynamic to watch. It's a shame you have to tip toe so much, it almost seems to take away from the actual issues these days.
- JoeAltmaier 12y ago
  Cmon, its easy to avoid most of the offenses; just read what you wrote before hitting 'reply'. As for ageist, that actually strikes at the heart of the topic. Web facility is absolutely correlated with age. Its defensible to talk about generations and technology frankly.
  - tshile 12y ago
    It's easy as long as you're taking everyone's sensitivities into account all the time. My point is that the person that has a problem with what they consider obvious stereotyping that's a problem with discrimination has easily overlooked something others would consider an obvious stereotype that leads to discrimination... If we're going to lambast the OP for being sexist, then this commenter should be lambasted for being ageist. Yet I bet if you ask the commenter they'll say they don't behave like an ageist and would rather not be called such... yet said commenter doesn't bother affording the OP the same level of discourse or benefit of the doubt. today's political correctness is full of this sort of hypocrisy. in my opinion the better option is for people to stop being so sensitive and to look for actual discrimination instead of perceiving it from people they know nothing about based on one line on the internet...
    - JoeAltmaier 12y ago
      I guess I tried to explain that? Its not ageist to assign technological facility to generation - its a true correlation.
      - filmgirlcw 12y ago
        Exactly. And obviously there are exceptions (many of them), but studies have conclusively shown both in usage and proficiency that younger generations are more comfortable with "the web" than generations that came before them. If you look at Pew's studies and others like it, you can see that the comfort level/usage patterns for the web (and smartphones, though not cellphones) mirror the age break points between the Baby Boomers and Gen X (defining Gen X as 1965-1980, which is how most socialists say culture has determined that generation) perfectly. I'm not even saying its a good tagline, I'm simply saying the gendered aspect is unnecessary because if we're dealing with stereotypes, old[1] people get confused by the Internet is far more valid than the inference that it's just older women who are uncomfortable. That's the distinction. [1] to be clear, I'm not saying anyone not born in Gen X or Gen Y is "old" or less comfortable online.
deedubaya 12y ago
Good feedback, thanks for playing civil. I used mother because my mother wouldn't have been able to build a website with existing tools, but could with SimplyBuilt. I found it not at all sexist, nor ageist, just that she didn't have the right tools until now. But that isn't what this product is about. www.simplybuilt.com is built using SimplyBuilt.com. We'll add more examples soon. www.pushagency.io is another example. Anyone could sign up for SimplyBuilt.com and create our launch page. Eat your own dog food! We're easier to use than the competitors. Simply try it out, and you'll find out. We'll illustrate this fact in the future. Good point about the company and adding content about the people behind it. The best we've got right now is https://my.simplybuilt.com/humans.txt https://my.simplybuilt.com/humans.txt. We can and should improve this as well, thanks especially for this comment. We're focusing on gaining customers right now, not how they'll leave us. Hopefully they don't want to do that any time soon.

tshile 12y ago

>Like others, I find the title of this thread problematic. I also find your apparent refusal to understand _why_ it is problematic, even more problematic. You could have said parents instead of mom. Think about why you didn't. Hah. So it's ok to be ageist but not sexist? Think about why you don't see 'parents' as ageist... This is the problem with today's politically correct climate - it's not about what the person is intending to say anymore, it's about how people perceive what is said. And if a group perceives it as offensive then look out, because it doesn't matter what your intentions were anymore because your intentions are now being decided by others for you. Any hypocrisy in those people's stances is obviously to be ignored. It's an interesting dynamic to watch. It's a shame you have to tip toe so much, it almost seems to take away from the actual issues these days.

JoeAltmaier 12y ago
Cmon, its easy to avoid most of the offenses; just read what you wrote before hitting 'reply'. As for ageist, that actually strikes at the heart of the topic. Web facility is absolutely correlated with age. Its defensible to talk about generations and technology frankly.
- tshile 12y ago
  It's easy as long as you're taking everyone's sensitivities into account all the time. My point is that the person that has a problem with what they consider obvious stereotyping that's a problem with discrimination has easily overlooked something others would consider an obvious stereotype that leads to discrimination... If we're going to lambast the OP for being sexist, then this commenter should be lambasted for being ageist. Yet I bet if you ask the commenter they'll say they don't behave like an ageist and would rather not be called such... yet said commenter doesn't bother affording the OP the same level of discourse or benefit of the doubt. today's political correctness is full of this sort of hypocrisy. in my opinion the better option is for people to stop being so sensitive and to look for actual discrimination instead of perceiving it from people they know nothing about based on one line on the internet...
  - JoeAltmaier 12y ago
    I guess I tried to explain that? Its not ageist to assign technological facility to generation - its a true correlation.
    - filmgirlcw 12y ago
      Exactly. And obviously there are exceptions (many of them), but studies have conclusively shown both in usage and proficiency that younger generations are more comfortable with "the web" than generations that came before them. If you look at Pew's studies and others like it, you can see that the comfort level/usage patterns for the web (and smartphones, though not cellphones) mirror the age break points between the Baby Boomers and Gen X (defining Gen X as 1965-1980, which is how most socialists say culture has determined that generation) perfectly. I'm not even saying its a good tagline, I'm simply saying the gendered aspect is unnecessary because if we're dealing with stereotypes, old[1] people get confused by the Internet is far more valid than the inference that it's just older women who are uncomfortable. That's the distinction. [1] to be clear, I'm not saying anyone not born in Gen X or Gen Y is "old" or less comfortable online.

deedubaya 12y ago

Good feedback, thanks for playing civil. I used mother because my mother wouldn't have been able to build a website with existing tools, but could with SimplyBuilt. I found it not at all sexist, nor ageist, just that she didn't have the right tools until now. But that isn't what this product is about. www.simplybuilt.com is built using SimplyBuilt.com. We'll add more examples soon. www.pushagency.io is another example. Anyone could sign up for SimplyBuilt.com and create our launch page. Eat your own dog food! We're easier to use than the competitors. Simply try it out, and you'll find out. We'll illustrate this fact in the future. Good point about the company and adding content about the people behind it. The best we've got right now is https://my.simplybuilt.com/humans.txt https://my.simplybuilt.com/humans.txt. We can and should improve this as well, thanks especially for this comment. We're focusing on gaining customers right now, not how they'll leave us. Hopefully they don't want to do that any time soon.