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> Beyond that, as I said, I've always been a staunch civil rights advocate, but I'm a recent convert to firearms. I always like to see this. I've always viewed
by LyndsySimon 12y ago
> Beyond that, as I said, I've always been a staunch civil rights advocate, but I'm a recent convert to firearms.
I always like to see this. I've always viewed arms possession as a civil right, and I sense that there is something of a paradigm shift in that direction happening.
> to be fair, the gun rights advocates aren't always forthcoming with statistics, but I have found their side to be more truthful
Part of the problem is that data is extremely hard to come by anything resembling unbiased data on the topic.
One of my personal pet peeves is when someone writes about "10,000 kids are murdered in gun violence every year", only to find upon further investigation that for the dataset they used, "kids" refers to all persons age 25 and under and "murdered" really meant "killed by". Counting a 24-year-old gang member who is shot by police as a "child murdered by gun violence" is absurd.
I'm not familiar with any similar criticisms going the other direction. The closest thing I've seen would be a handful of academics dismissing the work of John Lott out-of-hand without giving a specific reason for doing so. Asserting that a peer-reviewed paper is "widely discredited" has no meaning when one cannot point to a single published criticism of the work.
- bmelton 12y agoAgreed. I'm not a Lott fan, and many critiques of the man himself are valid (especially the sock-puppeting fiasco), but the most damning critique of his work I've seen is the NAS study which agreed with his conclusions, but found some of them to be statistically irrelevant. That said, I've had to play something of the foil to my gun-friendly friends, pointing out inaccuracies of memes and such, and cautioning against leaping to too many conclusions. For every example of gun control failing, there seems to be a counter-example elsewhere. I think it's fair to say that gun control laws, strict or lax, have very little effect on crime rates altogether, and in my own studies, have found that gun violence is most prevalent wherever there is greater economic disparity or distress. That isn't particularly great knowledge to either party's agenda, but makes me really wish that our nation would get over its fetish against "assault weapons" and start working on the real causes of violence.