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TL;DR: Don't drink 4L of the stuff per day.

ChuckMcM 12y ago
That is an inaccurate summary, the patient was fine on 4L of black tea per day, it was the Bergamont essence in Earl Grey that caused his issues. I also learned about a new thing, phototoxic chemicals.
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- nardi 12y ago
  > That is an inaccurate summary Not inaccurate. Merely imprecise.
- dbbolton 12y ago
  Excessive black tea consumption can also cause fluorosis. It's quite difficult to say just how much tea one would have to drink to cause any symptoms though. Bottom line, moderation is usually a good idea.
  - Kluny 12y ago
    What's fluorosis?
    - jrockway 12y ago
      The result of consuming too much fluoride. I believe it usually manifests as white marks on your teeth, but only as they grow in, so I'm not sure adults should care about fluorosis or not.
      - dbbolton 12y ago
        Unfortunately fluorosis can be a bit more serious than just some marks on your teeth. In severe cases of skeletal fluorosis, patients can experience pain/damage to the bones and joints. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeletal_fluorosis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeletal_fluorosis
- gcb4 12y ago
  at work i see people gulp more than 4 liter of, employer provided, water bottle with fake (sorry, "natural") fruit aroma..
kazinator 12y ago
Or if you must drink 4L, maybe don't drink exactly the same tea; try a variety of different teas.
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frozenport 12y ago
Not clear how dense it is. If I brew the tea with0 4x density, it fits in a 1 liter.
- atomi 12y ago
  Yeah. I love Earl Gray and sometimes will brew 64 ounces using 1 tea bag and a packet of stevia for my daily fluid intake. I hope 1 tea bag diluted should be okay.
x0x0 12y ago
A gallon. He was drinking a gallon of tea a day. I would hope any reasonably intelligent human being would not put a gallon daily of even a mild stimulant in his or her body for years on end and be surprised at bad things happening. It's like those idiots that get diabetes after drinking 4L of soda per day for years on end. Who could possibly have known that 1020 calories and 276g of sugar per 2L of soda -- or twice that if you drink 2x2L -- could be unhealthy?
- jrockway 12y ago
  But it wasn't the "mild stimulant" that was causing problems; he was fine drinking a gallon a day of tea without oil of bergamot. You then go off on some rant about soda; the effects of eating an extra 1000 calories a day are well known. They do not apply to black tea.
  - x0x0 12y ago
    And how would you know? Virtually nobody has studied the effects of long term high level black tea dosing, at last in part because (I believe) society has an assumption that most people aren't that stupid. A cup or five a day is understood because people do it. Assuming a cup is ~8 fluid oz, he drank nearly 17/day. ps -- since you didn't read the article, he wasn't fine drinking the black tea Since this type of tea had given him occasional gastric pain, he changed to Earl Grey (Twinings & Company, London, UK), which he thought would be less harmful to his stomach.
    - ubernostrum 12y ago
      Virtually nobody has studied the effects of long term high level black tea dosing, at last in part because (I believe) society has an assumption that most people aren't that stupid. In the southern US, iced and often sweetened black tea is consumed in large quantities and has been for quite a long time, to the point that the state of Georgia once jokingly introduced a bill mandating the presence of sweet tea on restaurant drink menus.
- natecavanaugh 12y ago
spyder 12y ago
Yes, even drinking too much water can be deadly: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication The "Notable cases" section contains mostly: drug use, drinking contests by radio stations, kids who were forcefully fed lot of water (3.4l) as punishment :(, also 4 liter water in 2 hours, and 8 liter in one day can be deadly.
Natsu 12y ago
Someone should warn Jean-Luc.
- fallinghawks 12y ago
  Nah, he's a knowing abuser of the stuff.
dunham 12y ago
More specifically, don't drink more than 1L of Earl Grey per day. Although they probably vary in bergamot content from brand to brand, so YMMV.
gcb4 12y ago
tea. hot. Earl gray. four liter.

That is an inaccurate summary, the patient was fine on 4L of black tea per day, it was the Bergamont essence in Earl Grey that caused his issues. I also learned about a new thing, phototoxic chemicals.

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nardi 12y ago
> That is an inaccurate summary Not inaccurate. Merely imprecise.
dbbolton 12y ago
Excessive black tea consumption can also cause fluorosis. It's quite difficult to say just how much tea one would have to drink to cause any symptoms though. Bottom line, moderation is usually a good idea.
- Kluny 12y ago
  What's fluorosis?
  - jrockway 12y ago
    The result of consuming too much fluoride. I believe it usually manifests as white marks on your teeth, but only as they grow in, so I'm not sure adults should care about fluorosis or not.
    - dbbolton 12y ago
      Unfortunately fluorosis can be a bit more serious than just some marks on your teeth. In severe cases of skeletal fluorosis, patients can experience pain/damage to the bones and joints. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeletal_fluorosis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeletal_fluorosis
gcb4 12y ago
at work i see people gulp more than 4 liter of, employer provided, water bottle with fake (sorry, "natural") fruit aroma..

kazinator 12y ago

Or if you must drink 4L, maybe don't drink exactly the same tea; try a variety of different teas.

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frozenport 12y ago

Not clear how dense it is. If I brew the tea with0 4x density, it fits in a 1 liter.

atomi 12y ago
Yeah. I love Earl Gray and sometimes will brew 64 ounces using 1 tea bag and a packet of stevia for my daily fluid intake. I hope 1 tea bag diluted should be okay.

x0x0 12y ago

A gallon. He was drinking a gallon of tea a day. I would hope any reasonably intelligent human being would not put a gallon daily of even a mild stimulant in his or her body for years on end and be surprised at bad things happening. It's like those idiots that get diabetes after drinking 4L of soda per day for years on end. Who could possibly have known that 1020 calories and 276g of sugar per 2L of soda -- or twice that if you drink 2x2L -- could be unhealthy?

jrockway 12y ago
But it wasn't the "mild stimulant" that was causing problems; he was fine drinking a gallon a day of tea without oil of bergamot. You then go off on some rant about soda; the effects of eating an extra 1000 calories a day are well known. They do not apply to black tea.
- x0x0 12y ago
  And how would you know? Virtually nobody has studied the effects of long term high level black tea dosing, at last in part because (I believe) society has an assumption that most people aren't that stupid. A cup or five a day is understood because people do it. Assuming a cup is ~8 fluid oz, he drank nearly 17/day. ps -- since you didn't read the article, he wasn't fine drinking the black tea Since this type of tea had given him occasional gastric pain, he changed to Earl Grey (Twinings & Company, London, UK), which he thought would be less harmful to his stomach.
  - ubernostrum 12y ago
    Virtually nobody has studied the effects of long term high level black tea dosing, at last in part because (I believe) society has an assumption that most people aren't that stupid. In the southern US, iced and often sweetened black tea is consumed in large quantities and has been for quite a long time, to the point that the state of Georgia once jokingly introduced a bill mandating the presence of sweet tea on restaurant drink menus.
natecavanaugh 12y ago

spyder 12y ago

Yes, even drinking too much water can be deadly: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication The "Notable cases" section contains mostly: drug use, drinking contests by radio stations, kids who were forcefully fed lot of water (3.4l) as punishment :(, also 4 liter water in 2 hours, and 8 liter in one day can be deadly.

Natsu 12y ago

Someone should warn Jean-Luc.

fallinghawks 12y ago
Nah, he's a knowing abuser of the stuff.

dunham 12y ago

More specifically, don't drink more than 1L of Earl Grey per day. Although they probably vary in bergamot content from brand to brand, so YMMV.

gcb4 12y ago

tea. hot. Earl gray. four liter.