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Blu-Ray Still Blows
- wyday 17y agoBesides saying "fuck" over and over again, was the whole point of that post to complain about licensing? If you don't want to deal with licensing issues don't use any proprietary technology. Release your work online in OGG format. These types of whiny posts don't contribute much of anything. There's no real solution proposed. Other than "I want to use proprietary technology but I don't want to pay the fees".
- windsurfer 17y agoI think they raise awareness at least. By convincing more people not to use the product, you leave a larger gap for a better product to come along and fill the void. What else can a consumer or producer do, if not complain?
- wyday 17y agoOk, complaining is one solution. Many times it's the best option for consumers. However producers like this guy should work with the owners of the technology and negotiate a better deal. Get support from other independent producers, get a following, get some press, and eventually get your way. Instead he chooses to just complain. That's just lazy.
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- textfiles 17y agoWhat makes you think I am just complaining? Because you read just one of my weblog entries? Now THAT's just lazy.
- wyday 17y ago> Now THAT's just lazy. No, it's presumptuous. You made no mention of ongoing negotiation, and I assumed a post entitled "Blu-Ray Still Blows" would muddy up negotiations if they existed. Since you're here, correct me. Are you working with the owners of the technology to get this solved for independent producers?
- textfiles 17y agoI am not going to "negotiate" with Sony, Panasonic, IBM, and the other three members of the consortium for a "better deal". The Copy Protection is baked into the spec and cannot be removed - that's already a deal breaker for me. The terrible fees on top of it for even utilizing the copy protection you can't even choose not to use make it even worse. My tactic has been to release my work under open licenses (www.bbsdocumentary.com is one, www.getlamp.com is about to be), give presentations in which I discuss this situation, and write weblog entries about such, which, as you see, do garner attention. I donate to the EFF and their occasional efforts to improve the situation on a legal basis.
- pyre 17y agoI question the seriousness of this post if you think that it is possible to have 'reasonable' negotiations with the AACS, the MPAA, Sony, etc about their licensing policies. Large companies/organizations usually dictate their licensing terms downwards. They only make exceptions if they view you as a large enough group to be talking on their level (i.e. a major movie studio).
- Kadin 17y ago> However producers like this guy should work with the owners of the technology and negotiate a better deal. You really think an independent film producer, hell, even all independent film producers as a group, have any negotiating power with the Blu-Ray licensing people? Seriously? If anything, the owners are deeply in bed with the big studios, who have a vested interest in keeping anybody but themselves off the platform. I'm not sure why negotiation with and appeasement of the Blu-Ray people would be that productive. Explaining to consumers why Blu-Ray, as a technology, sucks, and encouraging them to use something else -- which right now might be "stick with DVDs" -- so as not to give their money to Blu-Ray's owners, seems like perfectly a valid strategy, since it might result in something better than Blu-Ray down the road. Working with Blu-Ray won't do that. Blu-Ray may be the "winner" of the HD format war, but they're not gaining traction very fast. If adoption can be slowed down enough -- if users can be convinced it's a shitty format run by a would-be cartel who want to crush independent cinema beneath punitive fees -- then it'll be that much easier for a new format to succeed. Of course it's the economy more than anything that has slowed down Blu-Ray adoption, but I don't see how telling people about the weaknesses of the format and its backers is a bad thing. The more people who know about it, the better, and the greater demand they'll be for an alternative (whether it's USB sticks, SD cards, or some form of online distribution).
- anigbrowl 17y agoWhat better product? This kind of thing costs a fortune to commercialize. YES, in a few years solid-state memory devices will become sufficiently cheap to make distribution a possibility...and people will find ways to complain SS-ROM. Network distribution will allow us to throw 40-50GB files around...eventually...at least in large urban areas. Personally I like what Blu-ray does now and can live with the restrictions. It's preferable to me to both watch and potentially distribute that format than to sit around waiting a decade for the infrastructure to catch up with the leading solution for low-cost bulk media.
- dasil003 17y agoInternet delivery of course.
- TheElder 17y agoI'm not sure why vulgar language is becoming so acceptable and commonly used . Am I just old school (even though I'm 30) when I find myself turned away from people who talk in such a manner or do others feel similar to me?
- unalone 17y agoI'm new school (if 19 isn't too old to call myself that), and swearing's becoming such a huge trend because of how natural it feels. It's part of the huge trend towards the unprofessional. That's a good thing. While it's got some irritating side effects, the overall idea is getting rid of bullshit attitudes towards one another. Swearing is a part of language. There's nothing wrong with its being used.
- TheElder 17y agoI'm in agreement with your assessment that the trend is towards unprofessionalism. I live in the US, and have been to Japan three times. My first time there I was totally shocked with the effort put into dress to look as clean and professional as possible. Top notch suits that were perfectly pressed, nice shoes, a nice brief case (very few backpacks), and a very polite attitude. I wish our trend was towards the Japanese attitude towards the way we present ourselves in public. Off topic: it's so refreshing to come here (HN) and read a reply that isn't some kind of verbal attack towards me for the opinion I presented. I thank you for that, for stating your opinion with insights without attacking me.
- rikthevik 17y agoThe pressed suit is a nice touch, but I think with North Americans you'll find more of a focus on results rather than presentation. Presentation is great when it follows substance, but it's no substitute.
- madair 17y agoIsn't their saying, "If a nail sticks out, hammer it down"? Is that what you're going for? Or an unintended side effect?
- textfiles 17y agoIgnoring the grannies beneath this reply, the main reason I wrote this entry was because I'd written a previous entry about how Blu-Ray was not going to be used for my film, because the restrictions were so heinous that they overshadowed the power of the technology. A little while ago, the restrictions/costs were changed a bit, and people were starting to ask me "so, does this change things?" and I wanted to make it clear that they didn't change things and all. While it's nice to talk about all sorts of OGG hippydippery and how it should be released online, the fact remains that many people who'd want to see someone's "film" will own or use blu-ray and wonder why the film isn't being released on a 'real' format that can be bought on a nice disc and put into the components in their home. And my bringing these subjects up the way I do is an attempt to explain why that is the case.
- dasil003 17y agoThe more I think about this the more I am determined to simply boycott Bluray in its entirety. I already watch most things on my laptop attached to a large monitor. Going forward I feel an obligation to throw my consumer support behind open (or at least reasonably-licensed) streaming formats. Devices like Boxee should be supported and nurtured to help do an end-around on these cartels. I can't stand the thought that future technology could be crippled by a few mega corps without the first intention of doing any innovation. All that's needed are the right devices and a critical mass of good content and the cartels will not be able to secure a monopoly.
- rbanffy 17y agoHow about adding a "Why this title is not available in Blu-Ray" as an extra on every DVD published?
- billybob 17y agoGood idea. In a nice, friendly note to the consumer, spell out the outrageous fees and mandatory crippling, and say 'we can't afford this and frankly, we think you deserve better.' If you succeed commercially, it puts pressure on the big boys to change their nasty ways.
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- Tichy 17y agoI wonder if USB sticks will be cheaper than Blu-Ray disks in the long run? (And offer more capacity, too).
- textfiles 17y agoYou've lit a fire under me, Tichy. Thank you.
- slyn 17y agoI've begun wondering recently if we will end up going full circle and ending up with cartridges again as part of whatever next-gen or next-next-gen gaming consoles, this time based solely on generic flash memory. The cost of flash would have to start going down even more drastically than it already is to ever come close to matching the manufacturing cost of a DVD or even a Blu Ray disk, but I would think there would be a point where the value/$ would make it worth it to the consumer. Faster loading times, more durable games (ie no disk scratch errors), no real space limit on the games, extra room for game specific DLC, and I'm sure other advantages that I can't think of now that would be cool. Street Fighter 2 super dooper HD remix might only need 5-10 gigs worth of memory, so they just throw in one 16 gig module (or two 8 / four 4 gig modules for data striping and faster loading times) and ship it. Metal Gear Solid 7 and its over 9000 hours of CGI might need 200+ gigs, so they just throw in as much flash memory as they can and go to town with their high res textures and lossless a/v. Lets say Rock Band 5 ships with 80 songs at approximately a half gig a song, as well as 20 gigs of everything else, for a 60 gig total footprint. They then could ship the game on a 120 gig flash cartridge, mark half of it writable to the console, and boom. Now instead of having to carry around your xbox hard drive when visiting friends for RB parties, you just take the cartridge and it has the DLC on it.
- baddox 17y agoI think prices for flash are just now getting to the point where it's entirely feasible to distribute most software on them.
- potatolicious 17y agoI doubt it. A bought a 16GB SD card a little while back, and it cost maybe $30. A Blu-ray disc holds 25GB single-sided, and 50GB double-sided, and probably costs well less than a dollar to press. Flash is a loooooong way from beating the disc.
- sketerpot 17y agoWow, they've managed to make it more painful than BitTorrent. This is self-defeating.
- GrandMasterBirt 17y agoThis is one of two points: a) proprietary formats hurt independents b) this is yet another anti-piracy heal of crap which will hurt consumers. So yea I would not be concerned with blue ray. If the porn industry does not embrace it it won't be the next big thing. However being that this is sony you are garanteed that they will cater to destroying independents and growing sony's monopoly.
- pyre 17y agoSony is going to fight tooth and nail for this one. It's the first time that one of their proprietary formats became an industry standard. They rest are failures (ATRAC,BetaMax,MemoryStick,MiniDisc,etc). They still won't cater to independents though.
- jcl 17y agoSony invented the 3.5-inch floppy disk, and the audio compact disc was invented together by Philips and Sony. Were these somehow not proprietary?
- zandorg 17y agoJust an amusing note - I used to call 3.5 inch disks 'hard disks' because unlike 5.25 inch disks, the shell around the disk is hard!
- scblock 17y agoI'm sorry but I can't even read this. It is hard to look at, textually awful and filled with needless coarse language. If you want to write a longish essay that people will read, learn to edit.
- textfiles 17y agoI'm sorry to hear a 1,100 word essay cows you down into illiteracy.
- kdw 17y agoBlu-Ray is a transition format anyway. Long-term, my money is on network-based digital distribution. It sucks... but for a couple hundred bucks, I'm fine with my blu-ray player, my netflix subscription, and my purchased copy of Planet Earth.
- pyre 17y agoIf all you want is HiDef Planet Earth... it was released on HDDVD. You could probably get a copy and a player for cheap.
- kdw 17y agoI actually had one. I switched to blu-ray because of netflix. A netflix subscription and a blu-ray player is both cheaper and more interesting than subscribing to all the premium movie channels.
- pyre 17y agoNetflix is also on the XBox360. But that might not be relevant to you (not a gamer,bluray player cheaper,etc).
- billybob 17y agoAgreed. We've got this great, robust network for shuttling data around the world and keeping redundant distributed copies, yet we buy spoonfuls of information on breakable discs with restrictions on how we can use them. <sarcasm>I wonder if that will last?</sarcasm>
- bitwize 17y agoYes, you have to use DRM. Yes, you have to pay for it. This won't change. In fact, most independent authors and musicians I know would kill for a transparent, workable DRM system that effectively stopped casual piracy. Without it, 0-day piracy would become ubiquitous. For Hannah Montana that won't matter much because Hannah Montana's shit is going to be bought -- and pirated -- in massive volume anyway. For the local musician it could mean not getting the big break he was hoping for because he didn't cross the threshold of 50,000 or 100,000 albums sold necessary for the record company to heavily market him. In the worst case it means not being able to feed his family with the income from his music. So no, DRM is necessary if you want small independent creators to succeed in the age of the Pirate Bay. And it's not going away anytime soon.
- textfiles 17y agoNah, we fundamentally disagree on this point and a lot of people disagree with you on this point. (But many do agree with you, too.)
- BillRossum 17y agoYou know what else blows? That website. My eyes bleed. Learn how to put "text" on a "website".
- textfiles 17y agoI wrote an entry about that. If you can handle it. http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/1765 http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/1765
- bitwize 17y agoYeah, but... smooth green antialiased text on a crisp LCD display? Shit's WEAK. It's like listening to Britney Spears cover "I Can't Get No Satisfaction". The soul is gone. I know you did the best you could with what you had, but I'm yearning for a CSS stylesheet option that changes the text into an 8x10 chunky pixely aliased monospaced font, rendered in fuzzy green phosphor dots that don't turn black immediately when the text is scrolled but rather fade to ghostly lingering afterimages. As I've mentioned a couple times before, I always use chunky pixely fonts to code in, though the wheat-on-dark-slate-gray I used for my first Red Hat install gives me t3h warm fuzzies. It just feels namby-pamby typing your code in Lucida Console.
- textfiles 17y agoYou just compared my website to a Britney Spears cover? Them's fighting words, sir! Keyboards at dawn.