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You sound like a shill for Epic. This business challenge is only going to be solved by startups, because all of the existing players rely on it being such a fu

You sound like a shill for Epic. This business challenge is only going to be solved by startups, because all of the existing players rely on it being such a fucked system. They're not going to fix anything.

Pacabel 12y ago
This is absurd. So rdxm is a "shill" merely because he or she pointed out some very real and important issues surrounding this sort of technology, and then also pointed out the fact that established players are best prepared to handle such challenges? Huh? If you're going to make such accusations, or even just hint at them, please provide us with at least some real evidence to show that rdxm is being directly compensated by one or more of the industry incumbents for posting that comment. Since I doubt very much that you can provide that evidence, I think it would be appropriate for you to apologize to rdxm and to the rest of the community here.
- angersock 12y ago
  Eh, I'd expect somebody shilling for Epic or any of the other major vendors to sound the same way--which is exactly what I said, no more no less. I'm not going to apologize. The problem with bandying about "HIPPA [sic]" and random ISO security standards is that it only serves to dampen enthusiasm for fixing the staggeringly pervasive issues of mismanagement and technological obsolescence. Anybody can come up with a "no" or a problem--"but but but HIPAAaaaaa" is a common refrain from people who want to sound like they know something but who lack the talent or skill to fix the fucking thing.
  - mkal_tsr 12y ago
    You sound like a shill for startups.
    - angersock 12y ago
      I hope so!
markolschesky 12y ago
I used to work at Epic. I don't think that we had shills. I think we had more farmers employed than marketing staff when I was there, honestly. All jokes aside, I think the passing of the ACA has changed things drastically. With insurance companies no longer able to make more money by charging more money/denying coverage to the sick, they are slowly becoming more active on coming up with ways to be innovative on making patient care more streamlined and affordable. Sometimes they'll work with startups (Aetna CarePass comes to mind), and they definitely should. But, sometimes they'll go it alone as well. It's exciting to see it all play out right now in the industry.
apu 12y ago
Protip: accusing someone of sounding like a shill rarely leads to productive discussion.

Pacabel 12y ago

This is absurd. So rdxm is a "shill" merely because he or she pointed out some very real and important issues surrounding this sort of technology, and then also pointed out the fact that established players are best prepared to handle such challenges? Huh? If you're going to make such accusations, or even just hint at them, please provide us with at least some real evidence to show that rdxm is being directly compensated by one or more of the industry incumbents for posting that comment. Since I doubt very much that you can provide that evidence, I think it would be appropriate for you to apologize to rdxm and to the rest of the community here.

angersock 12y ago
Eh, I'd expect somebody shilling for Epic or any of the other major vendors to sound the same way--which is exactly what I said, no more no less. I'm not going to apologize. The problem with bandying about "HIPPA [sic]" and random ISO security standards is that it only serves to dampen enthusiasm for fixing the staggeringly pervasive issues of mismanagement and technological obsolescence. Anybody can come up with a "no" or a problem--"but but but HIPAAaaaaa" is a common refrain from people who want to sound like they know something but who lack the talent or skill to fix the fucking thing.
- mkal_tsr 12y ago
  You sound like a shill for startups.
  - angersock 12y ago
    I hope so!

markolschesky 12y ago

I used to work at Epic. I don't think that we had shills. I think we had more farmers employed than marketing staff when I was there, honestly. All jokes aside, I think the passing of the ACA has changed things drastically. With insurance companies no longer able to make more money by charging more money/denying coverage to the sick, they are slowly becoming more active on coming up with ways to be innovative on making patient care more streamlined and affordable. Sometimes they'll work with startups (Aetna CarePass comes to mind), and they definitely should. But, sometimes they'll go it alone as well. It's exciting to see it all play out right now in the industry.

apu 12y ago

Protip: accusing someone of sounding like a shill rarely leads to productive discussion.