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Fortheon – A multi-language cloud application platform

104 points by yasyfm 12y ago

arturventura 12y ago
Doesn't dokku does this already? I mean, I've tried dokku and my experience was quite similar to heroku.
- lbotos 12y ago
  This looks like a heroku competitor whereas dokku is a self-hosted option.
  - michaelscaria 12y ago
    Exactly on point, Dokku is great when you want to manage everything yourself, but Fortheon takes care of all the hairy server interactions.
- krrishd 12y ago
  There's a couple benefits to using this, including the option to integrate load balancing as well as the extensions (such as database servers) that are the cheapest you'll get anywhere unless you set them up yourself on EC2 or a VPS.
  - wise_young_man 12y ago
    Have you seen AWS? Elastic Beanstalk and RDS are pretty affordable solutions that our startup is using to allow us to scale when we need to.
- brandoncopley 12y ago
  The best benefit of Fortheon is that all your servers traffic is run through your own system that you built, load balancers, etc. but it's super easy to configure.
kanja 12y ago
No python support?
- voidlogic 12y ago
  Or Go or Java/Scala/Clojure. I would hope these are on the way. I would think Go would be uber easy to support.
- michaelscaria 12y ago
  Not yet, it's definitely on the top of our priorities list!
- justincormack 12y ago
  Or Forth support?
- brandoncopley 12y ago
  Yeah :/ I think it's on the roadmap though.
dubcanada 12y ago
Not sure if this is ready for prime time yet? I mean most of their documentation says "Under construction"
- krrishd 12y ago
  I'm a friend of the founder, it indeed isn't ready yet, although docs should be up fairly soon. It is fully functional, and it is hosting a few platforms in production including http://hackerbracket.com http://hackerbracket.com
- michaelscaria 12y ago
  Hey, so sorry about that, we weren't aware somebody posted about this! But like krisshd said, we are fully functional and have several websites running on us.
  - nine_k 12y ago
    I wish there was at least a mention of available storage (disk, choice of databases) and its price.
    - michaelscaria 12y ago
      www.fortheon.com/pricing www.fortheon.com/extensions
    - deleted 12y ago
      [deleted]
cvburgess 12y ago
This looks great. I host several things on http://dotcloud.com http://dotcloud.com right now but this pricing is a fraction of the DC price. I would love to see integration with some CI tools like codeship.io and obviously the documentation needs to get done ASAP. Good luck to the team, I'll keep an eye on the project for sure.
- brandoncopley 12y ago
  I've helped the team out a bit - if you have any ideas with other tools they should integrate, email their support I'm sure they'd love to see how they can make it happen.
  - cvburgess 12y ago
    Sent! Hopefully they aren't drowning in emails right now...
vlucas 12y ago
What about SSL? Do you charge an additional fee for SSL? I didn't find any mention of it anywhere.
- michaelscaria 12y ago
  SSL is free with the purchase of a load balancer.
michaelscaria 12y ago
By the way, you guys can access docs at https://docs.fortheon.com https://docs.fortheon.com Sorry about this, wasn't aware we were posted!
pkallberg 12y ago
Looks pretty cool, is it built on top of DigitalOcean? I work at http://www.cloud66.com http://www.cloud66.com and we're doing something similar (but on several clouds)
- michaelscaria 12y ago
  @pkallberg yup, it's entirely on DigitalOcean
filearts 12y ago
I notice that the pricing is very similar for extensions and application servers. Can you clarify that extension pricing is in addition to the core server hosting?
- michaelscaria 12y ago
  @filearts the extensions is a standalone server that can operate with or without an application server. Only our base server cost for application, load balancer and extensions are the same.
01walid 12y ago
There's a typo in the about page: "you're application"... also there are no contact information (email?)
- michaelscaria 12y ago
  Hey sorry about that, somebody posted this prematurely for us. But you can contact us at info@fortheon.com.
calpaterson 12y ago
I would worry about making promises about scaling applications you don't know anything about...not every problem can be solved by adding more hardware. If someone is doing the business software equivalent of the travelling salesman then it doesn't matter how many dynos they spin up: it will be slow
neom 12y ago
Been working with these guys for 6 months now watching them build the platform and helping them figure out how to scale it on DO, pretty nice tech, smart kids (and I mean kids!) :)
- hunvreus 12y ago
  So you're the person to talk to when interested in building something on top of DO? We love what you're doing guys; we built all kind of things early on to use your API with Python, node.js and Go (things like https://github.com/devo-ps/dopy https://github.com/devo-ps/dopy). We're currently trying to integrate DO deeper into devo.ps
  - neom 12y ago
    je@ :)
    - hunvreus 12y ago
      Awesome.
- brandoncopley 12y ago
  I've been using Fortheon as well for the past few months as part of their beta program within Novation Mobile and it's been awesome so far.
georgem12 12y ago
how does database access work? didn't see anything in the docs about it. Is there some amount of local space on the servers?
- michaelscaria 12y ago
  once you purchase a database, you get all of the credentials to connect to it externally or automatically once you tie an app
  - georgem12 12y ago
    ah okay, but what's the pricing for that? https://www.fortheon.com/pricing https://www.fortheon.com/pricing looks like it's just for servers
    - michaelscaria 12y ago
      checkout fortheon.com/extensions

104 points by yasyfm 12y ago

arturventura 12y ago

Doesn't dokku does this already? I mean, I've tried dokku and my experience was quite similar to heroku.

lbotos 12y ago
This looks like a heroku competitor whereas dokku is a self-hosted option.
- michaelscaria 12y ago
  Exactly on point, Dokku is great when you want to manage everything yourself, but Fortheon takes care of all the hairy server interactions.
krrishd 12y ago
There's a couple benefits to using this, including the option to integrate load balancing as well as the extensions (such as database servers) that are the cheapest you'll get anywhere unless you set them up yourself on EC2 or a VPS.
- wise_young_man 12y ago
  Have you seen AWS? Elastic Beanstalk and RDS are pretty affordable solutions that our startup is using to allow us to scale when we need to.
brandoncopley 12y ago
The best benefit of Fortheon is that all your servers traffic is run through your own system that you built, load balancers, etc. but it's super easy to configure.

kanja 12y ago

No python support?

voidlogic 12y ago
Or Go or Java/Scala/Clojure. I would hope these are on the way. I would think Go would be uber easy to support.
michaelscaria 12y ago
Not yet, it's definitely on the top of our priorities list!
justincormack 12y ago
Or Forth support?
brandoncopley 12y ago
Yeah :/ I think it's on the roadmap though.

dubcanada 12y ago

Not sure if this is ready for prime time yet? I mean most of their documentation says "Under construction"

krrishd 12y ago
I'm a friend of the founder, it indeed isn't ready yet, although docs should be up fairly soon. It is fully functional, and it is hosting a few platforms in production including http://hackerbracket.com http://hackerbracket.com
michaelscaria 12y ago
Hey, so sorry about that, we weren't aware somebody posted about this! But like krisshd said, we are fully functional and have several websites running on us.
- nine_k 12y ago
  I wish there was at least a mention of available storage (disk, choice of databases) and its price.
  - michaelscaria 12y ago
    www.fortheon.com/pricing www.fortheon.com/extensions
  - deleted 12y ago
    [deleted]

cvburgess 12y ago

This looks great. I host several things on http://dotcloud.com http://dotcloud.com right now but this pricing is a fraction of the DC price. I would love to see integration with some CI tools like codeship.io and obviously the documentation needs to get done ASAP. Good luck to the team, I'll keep an eye on the project for sure.

brandoncopley 12y ago
I've helped the team out a bit - if you have any ideas with other tools they should integrate, email their support I'm sure they'd love to see how they can make it happen.
- cvburgess 12y ago
  Sent! Hopefully they aren't drowning in emails right now...

vlucas 12y ago

What about SSL? Do you charge an additional fee for SSL? I didn't find any mention of it anywhere.

michaelscaria 12y ago
SSL is free with the purchase of a load balancer.

michaelscaria 12y ago

By the way, you guys can access docs at https://docs.fortheon.com https://docs.fortheon.com Sorry about this, wasn't aware we were posted!

pkallberg 12y ago

Looks pretty cool, is it built on top of DigitalOcean? I work at http://www.cloud66.com http://www.cloud66.com and we're doing something similar (but on several clouds)

michaelscaria 12y ago
@pkallberg yup, it's entirely on DigitalOcean

filearts 12y ago

I notice that the pricing is very similar for extensions and application servers. Can you clarify that extension pricing is in addition to the core server hosting?

michaelscaria 12y ago
@filearts the extensions is a standalone server that can operate with or without an application server. Only our base server cost for application, load balancer and extensions are the same.

01walid 12y ago

There's a typo in the about page: "you're application"... also there are no contact information (email?)

michaelscaria 12y ago
Hey sorry about that, somebody posted this prematurely for us. But you can contact us at info@fortheon.com.

calpaterson 12y ago

I would worry about making promises about scaling applications you don't know anything about...not every problem can be solved by adding more hardware. If someone is doing the business software equivalent of the travelling salesman then it doesn't matter how many dynos they spin up: it will be slow

neom 12y ago

Been working with these guys for 6 months now watching them build the platform and helping them figure out how to scale it on DO, pretty nice tech, smart kids (and I mean kids!) :)

hunvreus 12y ago
So you're the person to talk to when interested in building something on top of DO? We love what you're doing guys; we built all kind of things early on to use your API with Python, node.js and Go (things like https://github.com/devo-ps/dopy https://github.com/devo-ps/dopy). We're currently trying to integrate DO deeper into devo.ps
- neom 12y ago
  je@ :)
  - hunvreus 12y ago
    Awesome.
brandoncopley 12y ago
I've been using Fortheon as well for the past few months as part of their beta program within Novation Mobile and it's been awesome so far.

georgem12 12y ago

how does database access work? didn't see anything in the docs about it. Is there some amount of local space on the servers?

michaelscaria 12y ago
once you purchase a database, you get all of the credentials to connect to it externally or automatically once you tie an app
- georgem12 12y ago
  ah okay, but what's the pricing for that? https://www.fortheon.com/pricing https://www.fortheon.com/pricing looks like it's just for servers
  - michaelscaria 12y ago
    checkout fortheon.com/extensions