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It got them to the front page of Hacker News -- a "normal" ad would not have. I'm guessing that there are at least some of us that would look past (or not mind

by loumf 17y ago

It got them to the front page of Hacker News -- a "normal" ad would not have. I'm guessing that there are at least some of us that would look past (or not mind) the ad if the job looked good.

jhancock 17y ago
All that and they don't bother to mention salary. Seriously, they want someone "super-smart, motivated", blah, blah. They want to suck you dry so millions of women can shop better and for what in return? To piss away your super-smart, highly motivated existence programming Rails? Vision care? yeah, they do apparently have a health policy that through no fault of their own, you can't keep after they suck you dry. So what can you keep? Well, I'm sure the stock option contract is 20 pages of pure "screw you". If it wasn't, why not publish the options contract? They drop the hint several times that this may be a good job for a perv that wants to collect data on millions of women!! What genius thought dropping the "women, hint, hint!" line several times was a good idea. No, the only thing you walk away from most any job with is $$$cash$$$....they leave that part out!!! The ad is well written. And cute. But here's my message to companies: Tell us HOW MUCH!!! wow, I sure woke up on the crabby side of the bed, today ;).
- iron_ball 17y ago
  Just include a salary expectation with your resume and cover letter. Then if they follow up, you know they're willing to negotiate around that number. That's not so hard, right? Everyone knows if you're not a founder, you aren't getting stock that's worth working for peanuts.
  - jhancock 17y ago
    "Everyone knows if you're not a founder, you aren't getting stock that's worth working for peanuts." Which is precisely why parading it as a perk makes the ad bad. A great startup should publish their stock option agreements. Let people see how great it is. "psst, I'm gonna show this secret agreement, don't tell anyone else what it says..." After all this time of so many thousands of startups, we've finally gotten to a point of having a library of startup contracts, investment contracts, etc... You should be able to say "We use Law Firm X's published stock agreement. Its well vetted and easy to understand." If you want to attract great talent, show them the money!!! Transparency Rules!!!

by loumf 17y ago

It got them to the front page of Hacker News -- a "normal" ad would not have. I'm guessing that there are at least some of us that would look past (or not mind) the ad if the job looked good.

jhancock 17y ago

All that and they don't bother to mention salary. Seriously, they want someone "super-smart, motivated", blah, blah. They want to suck you dry so millions of women can shop better and for what in return? To piss away your super-smart, highly motivated existence programming Rails? Vision care? yeah, they do apparently have a health policy that through no fault of their own, you can't keep after they suck you dry. So what can you keep? Well, I'm sure the stock option contract is 20 pages of pure "screw you". If it wasn't, why not publish the options contract? They drop the hint several times that this may be a good job for a perv that wants to collect data on millions of women!! What genius thought dropping the "women, hint, hint!" line several times was a good idea. No, the only thing you walk away from most any job with is $$$cash$$$....they leave that part out!!! The ad is well written. And cute. But here's my message to companies: Tell us HOW MUCH!!! wow, I sure woke up on the crabby side of the bed, today ;).

iron_ball 17y ago
Just include a salary expectation with your resume and cover letter. Then if they follow up, you know they're willing to negotiate around that number. That's not so hard, right? Everyone knows if you're not a founder, you aren't getting stock that's worth working for peanuts.
- jhancock 17y ago
  "Everyone knows if you're not a founder, you aren't getting stock that's worth working for peanuts." Which is precisely why parading it as a perk makes the ad bad. A great startup should publish their stock option agreements. Let people see how great it is. "psst, I'm gonna show this secret agreement, don't tell anyone else what it says..." After all this time of so many thousands of startups, we've finally gotten to a point of having a library of startup contracts, investment contracts, etc... You should be able to say "We use Law Firm X's published stock agreement. Its well vetted and easy to understand." If you want to attract great talent, show them the money!!! Transparency Rules!!!