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"No, and it likely never will. Azul3D is for programmers and doesn't provide GUI-editors." So, you write your levels using a text editor? That's not for progra

by cwyers 12y ago

"No, and it likely never will. Azul3D is for programmers and doesn't provide GUI-editors." So, you write your levels using a text editor? That's not for programmers, that's for people who hate themselves.

girvo 12y ago
> That's not for programmers, that's for people who hate themselves. I laughed. In my experience, building games have meant building tools to fit exactly what your game needs, on top of the engine. There are sets of engines + middleware that handle all of that, but it doesn't seem that this projects is aiming for that (which is normal, see Irrlicht3D, OGRE, etc.)
adrusi 12y ago
Not all games need level editors. Doesn't make much sense for procedurally generated games. Level editors provided with game editors often aren't appropriate for a lot of games and they need custom editors anyway. A team making a run of the mill fps is probably going to go with something more established, like unity, unreal, source or cryengine.
exDM69 12y ago
> So, you write your levels using a text editor? That's not for programmers, that's for people who hate themselves. Or you would use an external editor like Blender or 3DS Max and do an importer/exporter script. Writing a GUI level editor is a whole lot of work and there are other things in a 3d graphics/game engine that might be a better investment for time.
- bhouston 12y ago
  This is how things were in the bad old days. But there is a lot of "impedance" mismatch between editors like Blender/3DS Max and game engines that this really isn't done much any more. The only exception is for modeling/animating characters and objects -- the levels themselves are almost always assembled and configured in tool (game engine) now.
slimsag 12y ago
Hahaha. No, don't write levels in a text editor haha. There is a blender model loader coming soon, that will help with level creation. It will provide very in-depth integration with the Blender suite.

by cwyers 12y ago

girvo 12y ago

> That's not for programmers, that's for people who hate themselves. I laughed. In my experience, building games have meant building tools to fit exactly what your game needs, on top of the engine. There are sets of engines + middleware that handle all of that, but it doesn't seem that this projects is aiming for that (which is normal, see Irrlicht3D, OGRE, etc.)

adrusi 12y ago

Not all games need level editors. Doesn't make much sense for procedurally generated games. Level editors provided with game editors often aren't appropriate for a lot of games and they need custom editors anyway. A team making a run of the mill fps is probably going to go with something more established, like unity, unreal, source or cryengine.

exDM69 12y ago

> So, you write your levels using a text editor? That's not for programmers, that's for people who hate themselves. Or you would use an external editor like Blender or 3DS Max and do an importer/exporter script. Writing a GUI level editor is a whole lot of work and there are other things in a 3d graphics/game engine that might be a better investment for time.

bhouston 12y ago
This is how things were in the bad old days. But there is a lot of "impedance" mismatch between editors like Blender/3DS Max and game engines that this really isn't done much any more. The only exception is for modeling/animating characters and objects -- the levels themselves are almost always assembled and configured in tool (game engine) now.

slimsag 12y ago

Hahaha. No, don't write levels in a text editor haha. There is a blender model loader coming soon, that will help with level creation. It will provide very in-depth integration with the Blender suite.