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But what does any of that have to do with the process of designing and developing Firefox OS? You also just kind of seem like an astroturfer. Android was not me

But what does any of that have to do with the process of designing and developing Firefox OS? You also just kind of seem like an astroturfer. Android was not mentioned anywhere in that article as far as I could tell. Why are you posting that here?

the_mitsuhiko 12y ago
> But what does any of that have to do with the process of designing and developing Firefox OS? [...] Android was not mentioned anywhere in that article The thread (if you have missed it) was about Firefox OS devices and how a person was recommending against buying a device. I agree with this sentiment and was mentioning that there are cheaper Android devices which are a better purchase. > You also just kind of seem like an astroturfer. Take off your tinfoil hat. Just accept that some people do not like Firefox OS or the devices.
- fred_durst 12y ago
  This thread was originally about someone telling their experience with the phone that Firefox OS is developed and tested against. This was an article about developing Firefox OS which is done on the device discussed in the start of the thread. That is relevant information to someone who might be interested in getting involved in designing and developing Firefox OS which was what the article was about. No where in the start of this thread or in the article did it involve which system is the best, nor did it ever even mention Android, iOS etc etc.
Pacabel 12y ago
Firefox OS doesn't exist in a vacuum. It's facing some very strong competition from Android, iOS, BlackBerry OS, and numerous other mobile operating systems and platforms. It makes absolutely no sense to consider Firefox OS by itself. It needs to be considered within the larger context. Unfortunately, like others have pointed out, Firefox OS is not competing very well against the alternatives at this point. It currently provides a worse experience than its competitors in pretty much every way. I don't think this is something that can be denied. Mozilla and the Firefox OS community will need to face these problems. And these "astroturfer" accusations from you are kind of weird. Pointing out obvious flaws with software and hardware does not mean that the people pointing them out are being paid by Apple, or Google, or any other company or organization. It probably just means that they'd like to see these problems resolved, for the sake of Firefox OS and its potential success.
- fred_durst 12y ago
  This is an article about designing and developing for Firefox OS. This is not an article about competing with Android and others. Discussion about which is a better option for the consumer is a very valid discussion and is important to the long term survival of the platform. But, in my opinion, it just doesn't have anything to do with the topic at hand. It's like if there was an article about a release of the next version of Android and someone came in taking about how the smaller subset of target screen sizes in iOS make it a better platform to design for. Its a valid discussion, but just doesn't have anything to do with the topic at hand. The "astroturfer" comment is because I can't see any sane reason, beyond self interest or possibly just to troll, why anyone would bother to hop into a thread and just say Android is better when there was no mention about Android in the article at hand.

the_mitsuhiko 12y ago

> But what does any of that have to do with the process of designing and developing Firefox OS? [...] Android was not mentioned anywhere in that article The thread (if you have missed it) was about Firefox OS devices and how a person was recommending against buying a device. I agree with this sentiment and was mentioning that there are cheaper Android devices which are a better purchase. > You also just kind of seem like an astroturfer. Take off your tinfoil hat. Just accept that some people do not like Firefox OS or the devices.

fred_durst 12y ago
This thread was originally about someone telling their experience with the phone that Firefox OS is developed and tested against. This was an article about developing Firefox OS which is done on the device discussed in the start of the thread. That is relevant information to someone who might be interested in getting involved in designing and developing Firefox OS which was what the article was about. No where in the start of this thread or in the article did it involve which system is the best, nor did it ever even mention Android, iOS etc etc.

Pacabel 12y ago

Firefox OS doesn't exist in a vacuum. It's facing some very strong competition from Android, iOS, BlackBerry OS, and numerous other mobile operating systems and platforms. It makes absolutely no sense to consider Firefox OS by itself. It needs to be considered within the larger context. Unfortunately, like others have pointed out, Firefox OS is not competing very well against the alternatives at this point. It currently provides a worse experience than its competitors in pretty much every way. I don't think this is something that can be denied. Mozilla and the Firefox OS community will need to face these problems. And these "astroturfer" accusations from you are kind of weird. Pointing out obvious flaws with software and hardware does not mean that the people pointing them out are being paid by Apple, or Google, or any other company or organization. It probably just means that they'd like to see these problems resolved, for the sake of Firefox OS and its potential success.

fred_durst 12y ago
This is an article about designing and developing for Firefox OS. This is not an article about competing with Android and others. Discussion about which is a better option for the consumer is a very valid discussion and is important to the long term survival of the platform. But, in my opinion, it just doesn't have anything to do with the topic at hand. It's like if there was an article about a release of the next version of Android and someone came in taking about how the smaller subset of target screen sizes in iOS make it a better platform to design for. Its a valid discussion, but just doesn't have anything to do with the topic at hand. The "astroturfer" comment is because I can't see any sane reason, beyond self interest or possibly just to troll, why anyone would bother to hop into a thread and just say Android is better when there was no mention about Android in the article at hand.