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Hmm.. I know I can only comment on the Flame, but your trouble with flashing seems odd. Update sources? git pull; ./repo sync -d Build from source? ./build.sh

Hmm.. I know I can only comment on the Flame, but your trouble with flashing seems odd. Update sources? git pull; ./repo sync -d Build from source? ./build.sh Flash to device? ,/flash.sh Done. Device reboots into a shiny new version. I couldn't imagine an easier way tbh. Regarding the rest of your comment: I do have pain points¹. I was a bit disappointed at times. But the progress is good and the current state (git, not what my flame came with, 1.3) looks very, very promising. 1: Keyboard's UX decision to be all caps (a la iPhone), lack of a working xmpp client, lack of a mail client w/ idle (mandatory) and server side search (optional but really helpful) support. Solve these and I need no apps/a different platform.

darklajid 12y ago
Lots of negativity here. I juat grabbed the Flame from upstairs again to test a browser feature. Now I remember the one single point of cannot-use. Keyboard? Usable, merely annoying. XMPP? I.. would even fall back on SMS. Mail client: It works, kinda. Not well, not nice, but it exists. The single one rant-worthy FxOS thing is the 'search'. It seems they integrate some weird recommendation engine. And that feels like browsing the web, ca. 2000 and no adblock. It even comes with predefined 'categories' (looks like folders, but it will search the web for 'games' for example and list the lowest of the low, the worst corners of the internet, the online scum - as 'apps' on your phone). Hrm.. Damn, that really turns me off every time I give it a try.. Can you rip it out/disable it? Nope.
- hsivonen 12y ago
  > It seems they integrate some weird recommendation engine. > And that feels like browsing the web, ca. 2000 and no > adblock. It even comes with predefined 'categories' > (looks like folders, but it will search the web for > 'games' for example and list the lowest of the low, the > worst corners of the internet, the online scum - as > 'apps' on your phone). Hrm.. Damn, that really turns me > off every time I give it a try.. Can you rip it > out/disable it? Nope. Probably a relevant bug report: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1048771 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1048771
  - benfrancis 12y ago
    From version 2.0, disable search suggestions in the Homescreen settings in the Settings app and you'll stop getting recommendations from EverythingMe.
    - darklajid 12y ago
      Whoa! I'm glad to hear that (I even was a pita on the fxos IRC channel before about this and that never came up). You made my day, thank you!

darklajid 12y ago

Lots of negativity here. I juat grabbed the Flame from upstairs again to test a browser feature. Now I remember the one single point of cannot-use. Keyboard? Usable, merely annoying. XMPP? I.. would even fall back on SMS. Mail client: It works, kinda. Not well, not nice, but it exists. The single one rant-worthy FxOS thing is the 'search'. It seems they integrate some weird recommendation engine. And that feels like browsing the web, ca. 2000 and no adblock. It even comes with predefined 'categories' (looks like folders, but it will search the web for 'games' for example and list the lowest of the low, the worst corners of the internet, the online scum - as 'apps' on your phone). Hrm.. Damn, that really turns me off every time I give it a try.. Can you rip it out/disable it? Nope.

hsivonen 12y ago
> It seems they integrate some weird recommendation engine. > And that feels like browsing the web, ca. 2000 and no > adblock. It even comes with predefined 'categories' > (looks like folders, but it will search the web for > 'games' for example and list the lowest of the low, the > worst corners of the internet, the online scum - as > 'apps' on your phone). Hrm.. Damn, that really turns me > off every time I give it a try.. Can you rip it > out/disable it? Nope. Probably a relevant bug report: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1048771 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1048771
- benfrancis 12y ago
  From version 2.0, disable search suggestions in the Homescreen settings in the Settings app and you'll stop getting recommendations from EverythingMe.
  - darklajid 12y ago
    Whoa! I'm glad to hear that (I even was a pita on the fxos IRC channel before about this and that never came up). You made my day, thank you!