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Yea, they accomplished a lot but are now facing multiple lawsuits from the Greek dairy company FAGE. https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=el&sl=el&tl=en&u

by nsgf 12y ago

Yea, they accomplished a lot but are now facing multiple lawsuits from the Greek dairy company FAGE. https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=el&sl=el&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.naftemporiki.gr%2Ffinance%2Fstory%2F838018%2Fbretania-dikastiki-niki-tis-fage-sti-diamaxi-gia-to-elliniko-giaourti https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=el&sl=el&tl=en&u=h...

jballanc 12y ago
Hah! Oh man...this is so classic I just had to laugh. In case you weren't aware, the rivalry between Turks and Greeks has been going on for literally centuries. What makes this all the more laughable is that the word "yogurt" is Turkish. However, since the Greeks have done a better job (in recent history at least) of exporting their culture to the west, Chobani's sales would probably plummet if they relabeled as "Turkish Yogurt", even though that would be a more accurate term for it in more ways than one.
- nsgf 12y ago
  Actually, i am located in Athens. The rivalry is indeed a major factor, spanning centuries. FAGE bases all these lawsuits on E.U. schemes: PDO (protected designation of origin), PGI (protected geographical indication) and TSG (traditional speciality guaranteed)
  - jballanc 12y ago
    Howdy neighbor! (I can literally see Greece from my front porch.)
    - nsgf 12y ago
      Hello guy with impeccable vision!
  - _delirium 12y ago
    The lawsuits are mainly in the U.S., aren't they? As far as I know, in the EU the situation isn't really disputed, since origin labeling is stricter. Here in Denmark there are three common categories of labeling for this style of yogurt: 1) "Greek yogurt", which implies it's imported from Greece; 2) "Turkish yogurt", which implies it's imported from Turkey; and 3) "strained" or "Greek-style" or "Turkish-style" yogurt, which doesn't imply a geographic origin. Fage oddly has nearly zero market share in Denmark though, despite Greek yogurt having a good market share. The dominant brand is the Danish brand "Nostimo", part of the Danton Trading group run by a Greek-Danish entrepreneur. The yogurt is all sourced from Greece, but the operation is run mainly out of Aarhus.
    - nsgf 12y ago
      Yes, it seems to be U.S.-centric, although the most recent one was in the U.K.
- mturmon 12y ago
  ...of exporting their culture... Har.
- afterburner 12y ago
  "In any case, he wasn’t sure how else he could succeed in America, and he did not want to return to Turkey: he is a Kurd, an ethnic group that has been subjected to discrimination there." Heh, even more interesting. At least the Turkish government is warming up to an independent Kurdistan now that Kurdish Iraq is helping to fight ISIS.
  - melvinmt 12y ago
    "Independent Kurdistan" not including claimed Turkish territory of course, only Northern Iraq.
    - afterburner 12y ago
      Yes.
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- hackuser 12y ago
  > the rivalry between Turks and Greeks has been going on for literally centuries. Literally, for millenia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trojan_war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trojan_war
  - chr1 12y ago
    Not really, Turks came to that territory much later https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey#The_Seljuks_and_the_Ottoman_Empire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey#The_Seljuks_and_the_Ott...
    - hackuser 12y ago
      > Not really, Turks came to that territory much later Good point. However, I think geography would create a rivalry between whoever occupies the region that is currently Greece and whoever is in Asia Minor.

by nsgf 12y ago

jballanc 12y ago

Hah! Oh man...this is so classic I just had to laugh. In case you weren't aware, the rivalry between Turks and Greeks has been going on for literally centuries. What makes this all the more laughable is that the word "yogurt" is Turkish. However, since the Greeks have done a better job (in recent history at least) of exporting their culture to the west, Chobani's sales would probably plummet if they relabeled as "Turkish Yogurt", even though that would be a more accurate term for it in more ways than one.

nsgf 12y ago
Actually, i am located in Athens. The rivalry is indeed a major factor, spanning centuries. FAGE bases all these lawsuits on E.U. schemes: PDO (protected designation of origin), PGI (protected geographical indication) and TSG (traditional speciality guaranteed)
- jballanc 12y ago
  Howdy neighbor! (I can literally see Greece from my front porch.)
  - nsgf 12y ago
    Hello guy with impeccable vision!
- _delirium 12y ago
  The lawsuits are mainly in the U.S., aren't they? As far as I know, in the EU the situation isn't really disputed, since origin labeling is stricter. Here in Denmark there are three common categories of labeling for this style of yogurt: 1) "Greek yogurt", which implies it's imported from Greece; 2) "Turkish yogurt", which implies it's imported from Turkey; and 3) "strained" or "Greek-style" or "Turkish-style" yogurt, which doesn't imply a geographic origin. Fage oddly has nearly zero market share in Denmark though, despite Greek yogurt having a good market share. The dominant brand is the Danish brand "Nostimo", part of the Danton Trading group run by a Greek-Danish entrepreneur. The yogurt is all sourced from Greece, but the operation is run mainly out of Aarhus.
  - nsgf 12y ago
    Yes, it seems to be U.S.-centric, although the most recent one was in the U.K.
mturmon 12y ago
...of exporting their culture... Har.
afterburner 12y ago
"In any case, he wasn’t sure how else he could succeed in America, and he did not want to return to Turkey: he is a Kurd, an ethnic group that has been subjected to discrimination there." Heh, even more interesting. At least the Turkish government is warming up to an independent Kurdistan now that Kurdish Iraq is helping to fight ISIS.
- melvinmt 12y ago
  "Independent Kurdistan" not including claimed Turkish territory of course, only Northern Iraq.
  - afterburner 12y ago
    Yes.
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hackuser 12y ago
> the rivalry between Turks and Greeks has been going on for literally centuries. Literally, for millenia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trojan_war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trojan_war
- chr1 12y ago
  Not really, Turks came to that territory much later https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey#The_Seljuks_and_the_Ottoman_Empire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey#The_Seljuks_and_the_Ott...
  - hackuser 12y ago
    > Not really, Turks came to that territory much later Good point. However, I think geography would create a rivalry between whoever occupies the region that is currently Greece and whoever is in Asia Minor.