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If you define humans as machines - automated creatures based on input and output, then yes. However there is this thing called qualia (aka subjective experienc

If you define humans as machines - automated creatures based on input and output, then yes. However there is this thing called qualia (aka subjective experience) that I believe is very real. Machines are not capable of this. All of the AI today is based on complex algorithms with an input output model. There is nothing subjective going on inside.

elduderino 17y ago
For those who say yes to the question then look at Simulated Reality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulated_reality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulated_reality
joeyo 17y ago
We don't know for sure that machines are not currently capable of experiencing qualia. We don't know that machines cannot ever be capable of experiencing qualia. We don't even know if animals experience qualia, and if so, which ones. I don't even know for sure if you are experiencing qualia.
- ewjordan 17y ago
  I don't even know for sure if you are experiencing qualia. I'll go you one further and admit that I don't know for sure if I am experiencing qualia. My brain certainly tells itself that I am, but how do I know it's not just wrong? Perhaps qualia is, in the end, nothing more than the state of asserting to yourself that you feel qualia. In which case it's really more a question about whether your brain is properly structured to ask that question than about whether it really exists...
  - joeyo 17y ago
    Ah, yes, we have arrived at the problem of being fundamentally unable to be sure of the nature of reality. We don't know if our sensors are reporting to us the "true" nature of the world and we don't know if our brains are reporting to us the "true" nature of our internal states. I guess, like you, I am okay with accepting that experiencing qualia and my brain telling me that I am experiencing qualia are functionally indistinguishable if not equivalent states.
chris11 17y ago
I believe that qualia arises out of specific, physical, quantifiable conditions. And so I think that would imply that machines can experience qualia as long as the initial conditions are there.

elduderino 17y ago

For those who say yes to the question then look at Simulated Reality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulated_reality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulated_reality

joeyo 17y ago

We don't know for sure that machines are not currently capable of experiencing qualia. We don't know that machines cannot ever be capable of experiencing qualia. We don't even know if animals experience qualia, and if so, which ones. I don't even know for sure if you are experiencing qualia.

ewjordan 17y ago
I don't even know for sure if you are experiencing qualia. I'll go you one further and admit that I don't know for sure if I am experiencing qualia. My brain certainly tells itself that I am, but how do I know it's not just wrong? Perhaps qualia is, in the end, nothing more than the state of asserting to yourself that you feel qualia. In which case it's really more a question about whether your brain is properly structured to ask that question than about whether it really exists...
- joeyo 17y ago
  Ah, yes, we have arrived at the problem of being fundamentally unable to be sure of the nature of reality. We don't know if our sensors are reporting to us the "true" nature of the world and we don't know if our brains are reporting to us the "true" nature of our internal states. I guess, like you, I am okay with accepting that experiencing qualia and my brain telling me that I am experiencing qualia are functionally indistinguishable if not equivalent states.

chris11 17y ago

I believe that qualia arises out of specific, physical, quantifiable conditions. And so I think that would imply that machines can experience qualia as long as the initial conditions are there.